I think you need to sit down and talk to somebody about that. Because the more we push these people away, the closer they come to crossing a line. This is an msnbc special series. All across america, support for White Nationalism is growing. And violence against yous is je skyrocketing. Im trying to fight back. Were not born to hate. Ideology isnt even what is leading people to these movements. I know this is true. Because i spent eight years of my life in americas first neonazi skinhead organization. But ive spent the last 20 years warning the public. Christian picciolini joins me now. Advising Law Enforcement and helping People Disengage from hate groups. I want to help people. I feel like thats my only redemption. Ive worked on deradicalizing more than 300 individuals. But i cant win this war alone. What i see happening is a lot of violence coming. And im struggling, can somebody like that change . Is he even redeemable . Hate can be broken. When former extremists like me speak out
aideology isn t what is leading people to these movements. i know this is true because i spent eight years of my life in america s first neo-nazi skin head organization. but i have spend the last 20 years warning the public, advising law enforcement and helping people disengage from white groups. want to help people because i feel like that s my only redemption. i have worked on deradicalizing more than 400 individuals, but i can t win this war alone. what i see happening is a lot of violence coming. white power! and i m struggling. can somebody like that change? is he even redeemable? hate can be broken. when former extremists like me speak out against it. this is an education into neo-naziism. from the clothing to the music
Because two of the stars stand for nonwhite states, alaska and hawaii. i do not salute that flag and i stand for my own flag which is the banner of the white race. with me today, chris picciolini, 19 years old, director of the illinois chapter of the northern hammer skinheads. well, i believe we re warriors today and we re fighting for a great cause, which is the white race. it s painful to admit, but that s me. 22 years ago. today i see the world very differently. joining us now, christian picciolini, cofounder of life after hate. hello, this is christian, tell me what s going on, man. for more than a decade i ve made it my mission to help people disengage from hate groups before they destroy their lives or the lives of others. does he ever talk about like being violent? has he ever talked about using weapons? there s a resistance to work with somebody who was a violent white supremacist. but i ve helped over 100 people
Quest to feel respected, feel empowered, feel that we matter. in the case of jeff, he could be a force for the good as a person that could authoritatively turn others away from extremism. if he felt that he can re-enter society, he can fulfill an important function. but at the same time, it s going to be very difficult to replace what he has had. one of the things that he s doing that i m struggling with is he makes his living running a website that sells hate music and neo-nazi paraphernalia. i would love for him to take it down today, but i don t want to sabotage somebody that could be a very powerful voice in this process of helping people disengage. i think it cannot happen abruptly. he has a family to feed. he cannot become homeless overnight. he needs to have a job. he needs to be reintegrated into society. it can take a long time, but it
Because i spent eight years of my life in america s first neonazi skinhead organization. but i ve spent the last 20 years warning the public. christian picciolini joins me now. advising law enforcement and helping people disengage from hate groups. i want to help people. i feel like that s my only redemption. i ve worked on deradicalizing more than 300 individuals. but i can t win this war alone. what i see happening is a lot of violence coming. and i m struggling, can somebody like that change? is he even redeemable? hate can be broken. when former extremists like me speak out against it. this is an education into neohassism, from the clothing to the music to video games. some kid could get this and walk