i m happy to announce, this is my commitment, on january 20th 2025, if i m elected the next u.s. president, to pardon donald j trump. i would be inclined in favor of a pardon. it s simply wrong to be discussing a pardon, when we have really not gotten the facts out. despite the 37 count indictment over mishandling our nation s top secrets, trump is still leading the crowd of gop field. but that hasn t stopped his opponents from giving the front runner the benefit of the doubt. i don t know why some of my competitors in the republican primary presumed the president will be found guilty. look, all we know is what the president has been accused of in the indictment. we don t know what his defenses. we don t know if this will even go to trial. it could be subject to a motion to dismiss. david jolly is back with me, david jolly, first let s just
lawn. i m getting so many amazing comments, obviously, now that the movie s out. it s just been i ve been flooded with this amazing positivity. and one struck me, who really hard in the sense, because you know, in the 60s when we were doing the chicano movement, and the civil rights movement, it wasn t just our rights that were taken away. it was our dignity and pride. this movie finally give it back to us. our thanks to eva longoria, jesse garcia, annie gonzalez and with the white house of public engagement. you can watch flamin hot, streaming now on hulu or on disney+. more american voices, after a short break. at the top of the hour, do not miss ayman, representatives ted lieu, and judy chu, join ayman to talk about the success and struggles of immigrant communities. that, and more, a pm eastern right here on msnbc. they re also going to talk trump s indictment, a pm eastern, msnbc. eastern, msnbc it s the moment when you realize that a good day.
president has to be able to do this alone. not confirmed by the senate. some said, if a president pardon s, the senate has to confirm that. so the result is, presidents have made this almost into a free crime zone. richard nixon committed serious felonies, for which he almost certainly would have gone to prison. he was pardoned by gerald ford. nixon showed very little contrition. he soon said, if a president does something, that means it s not illegal. and even after that, he said that he had been railroaded, and should never have been driven out of office in the first place. i ve to tell you, so much of what you ve said between state constitutional convention, and alexander hamilton, reminded me that half of what i know about history is informed by musicals. when you said constitutional convention all i could hear was lin manuel miranda saying i was chosen for the constitutional convention. when you talk about ford pardoning nixon, what do you think the lesson is today? the lesson
talk to former employees. we have eyes and ears everywhere. we will know when you do it. brittani, sure. let him keep his passport. please do leave the country. wouldn t that aid all of us? so i just think that it s part of his strategy to allow donald trump to be donald trump. and that ultimately his team has decided it will help them, and help their case, not hurt them. if they hold their power. congressman jolly, a new calling out today in the washington post reads, quote, in the estimation of many legal experts, declining to charge trump, given the preponderance of evidence laid out in the indictment, would have sent a signal that former presidents, or at least this former president, or above the law. the indictment provided trump and opening to attack federal law enforcement and to further erode his political supporters trust in the institutions of government. trump s line of attack, it is not a surprise, damaging,
think it s the role of the free press. i think this is a moment in history where the role of the free pass become so critically important. joe biden cannot touch this. he has to be no comment from now until next november. because, this is the prosecution, as we discussed in a previous segment, of his likely opponent. not just a past president. so the politics of it forbid biden from touching it. i think for democrats, go into this, lean into it. but not on the republican field. don t argue about the weaponization issue. don t argue about donald trump s craziness. lean into the support of the rule of law. lean into due process for the president himself, as a defendant. lean into your support for the presidential records act, and for the espionage act, and the importance of those. the contrast will naturally happen. the other thing to realize politically, there is no way for democrats to overcome the messaging of donald trump on trial. the nation will be fixed. their attention will be f