of guilt, jumping off the screen at these hearings and what the department of justice is doing about it. and how donald trump and his mom dusted off a pre-existing american script to try to pull off their insurrection when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i m chris hayes. it did not seem like there could possibly be any secrets left, that there could be possibly be new have literally shocking details about the ex presidents plot to and american democracy. and yet, oh my, there is. yesterday s historic testimony from cassidy hutchison, and advisor, to chief of staff mark meadows, forced everyone to update their basic understanding of what it was we saw in the period leading up to and during the insurrection on january 6th, both for donald trump and the people who supported his attempts to end the peaceful transfer of power. the old model of our understanding of what happened on january 6th is basically as follows. the ex president told a bunch of lies abo
have declined to cooperate with us further, including by providing on the record testimony. we are left with no choice but to issue you this subpoena. earlier this evening, committee member adam schiff had this message for cipollone. he ought to show just a small portion of the courage that cassidy hutchinson displayed. he needs to come out of hiding. he needs to do his patriotic duty. as we mentioned, cipollone was prominently featured in yesterday s testimony. mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, please make sure we don t go up to the capitol, cassidy. please keep in touch with me. we are going to get charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen. and do you remember which crimes mr. cipollone was concerned with? in the days leading up to the 6th, we had conversations about potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. hutchinson also testified abt cipollone s efforts january 6th to get the president to urge h
it cannot come at a more critical time. with more legal exposure for the twice impeached former president after cassidy hutchinson provided a smoking gun, starting with as she exposed in the clearest detail yet that the former president was aware of the threat of violence from his supporters on january 6. i was in the vicinity of a conversation where i overheard the president say something to the effect of, i don t fin care that they have weapons. they re not here to hurt me. take the fin mags away. let my people in. they can march to the capitol here. that s damning in light of the former president s speech to his armed followers. fight like hell. if you don t fight like hell, you are not going to have a country anymore. that kind of fight like hell, fight, fight, fight language was what the former president s lawyers said would be foolish to include. they were urging the speech writers to not include that language for legal concerns and also for the optics of wh
democracy, and you claim you love america, you should love democracy as much as you claim to love america. yeah, and not bury your head in the sand when your being attacked by your own political party. i ll schmidt, it has been a pleasure, i appreciate your time and you coming forward to sharing your experience with the committee. it strengthens our democracy and lets us know what you went through. we appreciate it. thank you, ayman. a quick programming alert. tonight, you can catch an encore of foresees in its documentary film that delves into rudy giuliani s election lies and his infamous election lies at the four seasons. that is at ten eastern, right after the second hour of ayman that starts right now. coming up coming up , we ll break down the federal state actions of democratic congressman adriano espaillat. plus, making sense of our inflation and what is being done to right the ship. ginni thomas s plan to overturn the election was far bigger than we realized. w
stand? less than a week after the bipartisan framework was publicly announced, it now seems that the two sides, as i expected, still have a lot of work to do. this week, texas senator john cornyn who was booed at the texas gop convention for his role in those negotiations, walked out a meeting with democratic negotiators, saying, it s fish or cut bait through talking. at issue are too central provisions of framework. one, red flag laws and how congress should ascent the vice states to docket them. a so-called boyfriend loophole. what method should be used that would be barred from purchasing fire arms. at this point, it is unclear whether the sticking points could pose a fatal threat to negotiations, but blue states are not waiting to find out. this month, near governor kathy hochul signed a slew of bills into law designed to curb gun violence, including raising the age to purchase semiautomatic rifles. new jersey and california or are considering their own safety packages. n