expedited impeachment time line. instead, house intelligence committee official says they will use bolton s refusal to show up as evidence of trump s attempt to obstruct congress. we also have new reporting on what went on behind the scenes once that july 25th phone call made news. the washington post is reporting that president trump lobbied attorney general william barr to hold a news conference and to say that there was nothing at all wrong with that call. in an unusual rebuke of the president, barr ultimately declined. and one of the people on that call, jennifer williams, is testifying behind closed doors today under subpoena. she is a top national security aide and first member of vice president mike pence s team to testifiy as part of the probe. joining me from capitol hill, geoff bennett, political analyst peter baker, and former federal prosecutor for the southern
that? this is a key question all along. is there a quid pro quo. and if there is, can it be that if the ukranians don t actually know about the security aid being frozen. so the first time it was publicly reported was in politico august 2 9 . our reporting is showing that the ukranians were getting word even earlier than that. the president says there was no quid pro quo. but i think you re right, sequence of events shows that there is these are not happening separate from each other, they are happening in parallel to each other. congress gets involved and forced the aid to be restored, not because they were trying to assist the president in his investigation because they think that ukraine needs this money and they are in a war right now basically with russia. so once the money was restored, president zelensky backs off the interview. he had been told by bill taylor don t get involved in american politics here this, is not good for you. he had been told by members of
thing from the perspective of thinking about the president s exposure here. because the president has maintained that to the extent that he asked zelensky to do anything in exchange for the u.s., the release of the u.s. aid, although he maintains there is no quid pro quo. but even if there was, it was okay because he was pursuing u.s. interests in rooting out corruption. and rudy giuliani is saying in that statement that he was there actually pursuing the president s personal interests. and if he is pursuing the president s personal interests, then he is not pursuing the country s interests and that is where the president is in trouble because the impeachment inquiry will be about whether he abused his power by pursuing his personal interests rather than the interests of the united states and holding up aid that has been appropriated by congress for the american national security interests. let me stop you there.
couple weeks ago charles kupperman filed a lawsuit and he said basically to the courts on one hand you have the white house telling me not tohe oth h congress demanding that i testify. i as this lowly public servant should not be the arbiter of this constitutional question. judge, you tell me what to do. the judge set oral arguments for december 10th which is an eternity from now you as it relates to this impeachment inquiry question. john bolton signaled to house investigators that he would be willing to comply with a few caveats. one, his testimony had to be public. two, he would do it if he was subpoenaed. and three, he would do it only if the courts gave kupperman the green light. john bolton and charles kupperman share the same attorney. well, last night house democrats pulled the subpoena that they had issued to charles kupperman
small businesses and it medicaid is due for reform. that s not a choice. we ll reform medicaid, now or later? i think if people understood what was inside there and the realistic choices they face they would think about it differently. bill: the poll what should happen to obamacare? repeal all 19%. repeal parts 45%. no repeal, 34%. take the parts apart then. john kasich was on 45 minutes ago. he is making the case that you have to make it attractive to moderate democrats in the house because ultimately you have to get this thh congress. what would you do, what would be your idea? i m not sure i agree with him that you ll get moderate democrats. i m not sure we ll get democrats at all. whether that s good or bad we can debate it but i don t think it s realistic to have them participate. you need the moderate republicans. you can redesign the tax credits that gives better support for some of the older