thing from the perspective of thinking about the president's exposure here. because the president has maintained that to the extent that he asked zelensky to do anything in exchange for the u.s., the release of the u.s. aid, although he maintains there is no quid pro quo. but even if there was, it was okay because he was pursuing u.s. interests in rooting out corruption. and rudy giuliani is saying in that statement that he was there actually pursuing the president's personal interests. and if he is pursuing the president's personal interests, then he is not pursuing the country's interests and that is where the president is in trouble because the impeachment inquiry will be about whether he abused his power by pursuing his personal interests rather than the interests of the united states and holding up aid that has been appropriated by congress for the american national security interests. >> let me stop you there.