the framers of the constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from george the third, and declared him to be a tyrant. there was no way that they would ve put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who is going to be president of the united states. was it your present impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world through your colleagues letter, but directly to president trump? many times. and he had been consistent and conveying his position to the president? very consistent. so despite being told that the president kept up a relentless pressure campaign on the vice president, both in private. when i entered the office the second time, he was on the telephone with who had later found it was the vice president. the conversation was pretty heated. it was a different on that i had heard him take with the vice president before. did
calling the vice president the p-word. so pence s aide saying, he said he appeared steely, rather grim up to that phone call the president. and he remained resolute though to fulfill this constitutional obligation, even as this mob descended on the capitol. and if you would expect some amount of remorse, from at least john eastman, as these riots raged on throughout the day, to a legal lie that he had created, well you are going to be disappointed. explaining why his legal theory about the vice president s role was wrong, you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege. we will take a look at that email. doctor eastman replied, and this is hard to believe, in his reply back to you was, the siege is because you and your boss, presumably you are referring to the vice president
select committee has obtained evidence suggesting that dr. eastman never really believed his own theory. let me explain. on the screen, you can see a draft letter to the president from october 2020. in this letter, and idea was proposed that the vice president could determine which electors to count at the joint session of congress. but the person writing in blue, eviscerate s that argument. the person who wrote the comments and blue wrote, quote, the 12th amendment only says that the president of the senate opens the ballots in the joint session. and then in the past, voice but the voids shall then be counted. the comments, in blue further state, nowhere doesn t suggest the president of the senate gets to make a determination on his own. we had an extended discussion an hour and a half to two hours on january 5th, and when i pressed him on the point i said, john, if the vice
and remaining silent i think for 189 minutes or so until he finally came out and asked the rioters to calm down. to go home. go home, we love you he said. exactly, go home we. love you and sent outside the capitol and just being shocked that if we watch the people continue to storm the capital. congresswoman, we talk a lot about former prince general counsel greg jacob. his testimony there, we played some of that. leading up to you, we talk about conservative judge jay michael luttig, as well. particularly this warning from luttig which was also incredibly chilling. to the preparedness for what is to come in 2024. in talking about the former president s supporters, right now, and what they are preparing for, and open site quote, and attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election. but to in fact succeed. are we prepared for something like that, what do you make of a warning from luttig?