msnbc world headquarters, here in new york. welcome everyone to alex with reports. developing this, our the generates committee is preparing for two more public hearings in the coming. week georgia secretary of state, binds raffensperger, and his top deputy gabriel sterling will testify today the committee focuses on donald trump s effort to overturn joe biden s 2020 victories, in georgia, and other swing states. earlier today, u.s. capitol police officer harry dunn, described to msnbc his feelings on wet has been revealed so far. the hearings and everything, they are bringing out a lot of what emotions, but it also is bringing out a lot of facts. so we had our opinions about what happened, everybody thought oh we know at this is about, we know it happened. but being able to actually have this confirmed through these hearings, it is like i feel a little bit vindicated from the way that i don t. meanwhile, former president trump showing very little remorse over the events
the framers of the constitution who divided power and authority, who separated it out, who had broken away from george the third, and declared him to be a tyrant. there was no way that they would ve put in the hands of one person the authority to determine who is going to be president of the united states. was it your present impression that the vice president had directly conveyed his position on these issues to the president, not just to the world through your colleagues letter, but directly to president trump? many times. and he had been consistent and conveying his position to the president? very consistent. so despite being told that the president kept up a relentless pressure campaign on the vice president, both in private. when i entered the office the second time, he was on the telephone with who had later found it was the vice president. the conversation was pretty heated. it was a different on that i had heard him take with the vice president before. did
he should make it clear that mbs needs to lift the blockade, he needs to understand that the saudis have lost that war. he needs to and that were before the president meets with. him but he shouldn t meet with and boston anyway, even in a conference, without that commitment. joining us right now, missy s ali raphael, with the new developments on the january 6th committee s request for testimony from ginni thomas, the wife of supreme court justice clarence thomas. okay, this is big news. so why, ali, is the committee asking her to speak to them now? yeah, alex, well the washington post was versus reported on thursday that the january 6th committee had evidence that ginni thomas, and former trump attorney john eastman, were exchanging emails. eastman being the man that that committee really laid out damning evidence against during thursday s hearing. saying that he was the creator of the conspiracy to use pence to overturn the results of the 2020 election. saying that he had acknowle
people in this country that you your theory is that this is how you are going to validate their votes, because you think the election was stolen? so you are going to cause riots in the streets. and he said, words to the effect of, there has been violence in the history of our country in order to protect the democracy or pack protect the republic. so does this tell you that eastman knew his plot to overturn the election could lead to violence, and if so, what could the legal ramifications be of this particular testimony? it does, and it could. this could get as far as a conspiracy. but, eastman is a obscure guy in california. this is going to be the same story that we hear on thursday with jeff clark. trump, everybody around him, the people are still with him saying you can t do this, there is no legal basis, or at the big lie is a big lie. and he finds some sort of
calling the vice president the p-word. so pence s aide saying, he said he appeared steely, rather grim up to that phone call the president. and he remained resolute though to fulfill this constitutional obligation, even as this mob descended on the capitol. and if you would expect some amount of remorse, from at least john eastman, as these riots raged on throughout the day, to a legal lie that he had created, well you are going to be disappointed. explaining why his legal theory about the vice president s role was wrong, you ended your email by stating that, quote, thanks to your bullshit, we are now under siege. we will take a look at that email. doctor eastman replied, and this is hard to believe, in his reply back to you was, the siege is because you and your boss, presumably you are referring to the vice president