My ambassador of assistance as well . They did. And if i said that number ambassador sondlands use of was circa in the military that term was that the three assistance around 270 million. Would that probably be people three people in accurate . Close. Charge of the ukrainian about right . Yeah. Did they get aid in policy. He ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come when did you come to learn about fy18 . Yes, sir. Including security mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to assistance . Have been . Including Security Assistance. We have already talked about the javelins, the antitank missiles that they i heard about former mayor were not able to purchase in Previous Administrations. Giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this have they gotten Security Assistance in fy19 . Year. That was a different phase yes, sir. Prior to the 400 million than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a or so that were discussing person who is a priva
26. What did that come to mean . My understanding, ambassador sondlands use of that term was the three people in charge of ukraine policy during the summer where he, gordon sondland, ambassador volker and secretary perry. What did you come to, when did you come to learn about mr. Giulianis role and what do you consider his role to have been . I first heard about former mayor giulianis interest in ukraine in january of this year, that was a different phase than what happened during the summertime. Was it normal to have a person who is a privat citizen take an active role in foreign diplomacy . I did not find his particular engagement normal, no. Now, Ambassador Taylor, you testified that there are two channels, a regular and irregular. What did you see as Rudy Giulianis role in ukraine policy . Congresswoman, i came to see
that mr. Giuliani had a large influence on the irregular channel. And was that normal . Is that normal to have a private citizen of the United States take an active r
and isn t it correct that this administration, the trump administration has been conducting a foreign assistance review to re-establish norms that guide the assistance as we provide aid overseas? that s correct. you testified that this review had been going on for quite a while and the administration did not want to take a business as usual approach to foreign assistance, a feeling that once a country has received a foreign assistance package, it s something that continues forever. and you continued. the program had to be evaluated they were actually worthy beneficiaries of our assistance, that our program made sense, that we avoid nation building strategies and that we provide assistance to countries that are lost in terms of our policy to our adversaries, is that correct? that s correct. and you testified you warmly welcomed this assistance review. correct. and again just to get this on record for the millions of americans viewing, security assistance was in fact releas
as acting deputy chief commission. and testified the issue of corruption in barisma was in the u.s. interests because, from your deposition we had made a commitment to the ukrainian government in 2014 to try to recover an estimated tens of billions of stolen dollars, stolen eight out of the country. is that correct? that is a stolen eight that were in the name of the owner zlochevs zlochevsky. the one we believed had stole be the money. the first case. this was the first case the u.s., uk and ukraine investigators worked on, was against the owner of barisma? that s correct. this was during the obama administration? that s correct. so. so for the millions of americans viewing, against the owner barisma was under president obama s administration? that s correct. you testified also we spent roughly half a million dollars of state department money in support of the fbi and this
chief admission. and you testified that the issue of corruption in burisma was in the u.s. interest because, quote and this is from your deposition, we had made a commitment to the ukrainian government in 2014 to try to recover an estimated tens of billions of dollars stolen assets out of the country. is that correct? that is a stolen assets that were in the name of the owner burisma krzyzewski, he was the one we believed had stolen the money. sure. so the first case, this was the first case that the u.s.s., u.k., and ukraine investigators worked on was against the owner of burisma. that s correct. that was during the obama administration. that s correct. so for the millions of americans viewing, the first investigation against the owner of burisma was under president obama s administration? that s correct. you testified, also, quote: we spent roughly half a million dollars of state department money in support of the fbi and this investigation to build capacity and