Put the finishing touches to nuclear bomb. Fast forward some 40 years and the same actors, the same powers are at loggerheads yet again, this time in the ukraine whos president earlier this year. And now hes countries intention to develop again, its nuclear military capability. What the americans look away yet again, if its worth to undermine moscow . Well, to discuss that, im now in joined by a sub dirani, former director general of pakistans Inter Services intelligence. Mister dirani, thank you very much for your time. Its a great honor for me to talk to you. Welcome, welcome. So now you were in charge of pakistans Intelligent Services in the early 1991, the soviet union collapsed and a few years before that, im sure youre witness that followed the so we pull out from afghanistan when he now here western analyst compared the current operation to current russian operation, ukraine to you know, the previous one in of gas done, and some of them, i think, predicting the consequences will
Our neighborhood. We used to call it should reject it. Like straight forward one score ukraine, the strategic depth of russia. You called the near abroad people, dakota, you know, theyll go to late mission who fellow brought, but all of us are concerned with what happens in your neighborhood. So we took a great risk the supporting the resistance agrees to super bus trowbridge unit, their terminal america could be years in case of you could and there was absolutely no doubt for the last 10 years we have seen in 2014 was the 1st crisis that this has been declared as the red lane, understandably, if it is natural that note was next to us. It was bad enough that it has come there for it, but this is not the way. Now if it happened, suddenly you couldnt, didnt become a member of nettle, then contradict the guides because because then it is a member of their lives. This under any, as far as moscows consent, there is no difference between them being officially a member of neither or not being
A sub dirani former director general of pakistans into services intelligence. Mr. Dirani, thank you very much for your time. Its a great honor for me to talk to you a little come now you were in charge of pakistans Intelligence Services in the early 1991, the soviet union collapsed and a few years before that, im sure youre witness that follow the so we pull out from afghanistan, when you now hear west analyst compared the current operation to current russian operation, ukraine to you know, the previous one in of gas done. And some of them, i think, predicting the consequences will be the same, that russia will be buried as a state in ukraine. What are your thoughts . Do you think those are accurate . Predictions . Did are many bedrooms between various situations. But the font is fun and who cream . I can think of a couple. Anyone coming through a fun is fun. With the sushi, the americans, our neighborhood. We used to college, city except lakes, tedford, one score ukraine, the strategi
3 months later, their Largest Military complex that produces multiple different kinds of ballistic massage for carrying w m. D, s and satellites, and so on, so forth. When to, to where and blasted and the list goes on and on and on. So its our tit for tat, and there is only one difference here. If fall, iran always believe that israel is the small enemy that doesnt need that much attention to be under folk in the focus of iran because theyre resistant from could have dismantled it or attack that a threat to were on. We really appreciate having you on the program to run based foreign policy. Analysts, sad must offer caution. Thanks for joining us on the program. Thats all for this. Our stay tuned for more in just about 30 minutes. Oh, a with me one welcome to worlds apart. When the americans needed pakistan support than driving the soviets out of afghanistan, they quietly looted the other way to allow islam of us to put the finishing touches to nuclear bomb. Fast forward some 40 years a