to negotiate. i think the points that he s picked as his highlights, the five points, are really important because those are issues that they are republicans are willing to compromise on. this can be a bipartisan speech. it s fascinating that he s chosen not to talk about healthcare. that s one thing that they haven t been able to agree on yet. neil: yeah. go on the things they can agree. maybe get an immigration accord hammered out, something on infrastructure. they do have some basic agreement. we shall see. lee carter, thank you very much. indiana republican congressman luke messer is chairman of the house republican policy committee. honored to have him. thanks for taking the time. glad to be on, neil. neil: we re told on the immigration thing that the president is offering something that democrats can t say no to. that is 1.8 million daca individuals getting citizenship. that will cause problems with your base. but the flip side is they will like the idea of a wall or more
the polls typically loses 36 seats in the house. if trump loses, you can put his policy agenda items to the side. god for bid he loses the senate, he could risk impeachmenimpeach. the president said $25 billion for the wall, $5 billion for increased border security and end chain mygation and the lottery system. the correct number is 690 daca dreamers neil: it s not 1.8. they were flabbergasted to hear that. that unnerved a lot of supporters that don t want to see that happen.
five broad categories, jobs, infrastructure, immigration, trade, national security. the president will issue a challenge to democrats to cut a deal that will fix democrat, enhance border security, including $20 billion for a wall and end chain migration and end the diversity visa lottery program. the president said he needs democrats to get this done. listen here. for many years for many, many years, they ve been talking immigration. they never got anything done. we re going to get something done. it has to be bipartisan. the republicans don t have the votes to get it done in any other way. it has to be bipartisan. hopefully the democrats will join us, enough of them will join us so we can do something great for daca and for immigration generally. we heard progress was being made in talks with the so called big six or capitol hill. right now i m told things are in a holding pattern. the two opposing sides have each gone to their respective corners
here s what s interesting. they re less averse to such a deal if it includes the wall, includes billions more in border security. so in other words, if that were to happen, it s a leap, i grant you, would that keep the base in line? i m uncertain about that, neil. since thursday, it s been interesting to see doing radio interviews, hearing from people in the base, text messages, phone calls, that 1.8 million figure really threw them off. 690,000, we re fine if we get the wall, get border security, we get all that, then we can have a conversation about green cards and legal status and potential citizen zip to completion of the wall. that 1.8 million fig you re threw people off. trump has to be careful here and saying, you know what? we re going to move forward. but i ll say this. i don t think it s the wall that breaks the deal. i don t think it s the daca dreamers. the holy grail for democrats is
well as provide the needed personnel and more importantly close the legal loophole, then this is about ending catch and release. individuals are coming over the border and they re just simply released into our society. this sem powering our to be able to expedite the removal of the illegal immigrants. pete: you would acknowledge that 1.8 million folks with a pathway to citizenship is a hiccup for conservatives? you know, this is part of the deal that is that needs to happen. if we would have 60 votes in the senate, we know we need democrats to vote with us on this. clearly it needs to be a bipartisan bill. if we would clearly have a 50 votes with republicans support-to-support this it would be easier. congress is not in that position. this is why you need a compromise on immigration but clearly from the standpoint of the white house, it is clear as the president has said time and time again, there needs to be a wall. if there is no wall there, no daca. steve: so that s the proposal