laura: it is time for seen and unseen, we turn to the fox news contributor author of the new book premiering tomorrow the wise men who found christmas raymond arroyo. thank you for having me as always. laura: the celebrities are really turning after the midterms now? oh, yes, they are indeed, and everywhere. the idea is to whip up excitement for a given candidate, and to trade celebrity for boats. the west wing and have deep casts did a virtual mashup last night for democrats in wisc wisconsin. in 2022 though road to saving democracy runs directly through my home state of wisconsin. every race up and down the ballot is crucial for democrats to invest in and win. please join the cast of the
when i talk to members of congress on the so and they say that yes it is really that, democracy is under threat, but also our prescription drug prices, also, this also. that it is not one of many issues. it is the issue. it is x dissension. and i wish more of them would say that. charlie, if the election deniers on the right win in 2022, in november next month, to me, democracy looks like it s over in america, fascism is here to stay. and, if they, lose we get maybe another insurrection, domestic terrorism, a civil war god forbid. i, mean is there any scope for optimism here? well that was pretty dark. i do wonder, in my darker moods, and i have money with them, whether we ve already sort of crossed a red line here, but the states aren t so high. so it comes back to your point about why this is not a bigger factor in the campaign. and, you know, the new york times did a piece last week about the senate race in my home state of wisconsin, about how democrats are concerned that the man
republicans but i think that we have to have the reality check that if this was a wave election, there is that possibility, we are faced with that. people should not sleep on this. fa the possibility that you have election deniers in some key states, including in my home state of wisconsin. so i would like to tell you know. but as you saw, the republican governors association come out in favor of endorsing kari lake, one of the wiliest conspiracy theorists and election deniers, a nominee in arizona. you can imagine or would have been if he had governors from pennsylvania in arizona, in wisconsin, who are election deniers. and i m sorry to say, that s a very real possibility in a year like this. and i want to get to that, steve. but before we do that, i am giving you this wisconsin question. and that is, the chances that lieutenant governor mandela
meets that definition but apparently the fbi director, mayor rowen and the president of the united states does not deny in speaking out against it. so far you ve january 6 folks going to the capitol that is domestic terror. if you want to firebomb a pro life office in my home state of wisconsin who i know the director of that who is a wonderful lady that is not domestic chair can you make sense of that for me? if only i could. and parents showing up to school board meetings are to apparently domestic terrorist as well, chanson none of it makes any sense. i think the message americans have received very clearly is that there are two sites and if you were on one side everything is okay, everything swept under the rug. if you are on the other side they attack you constantly. everything is blown out of proportion and we know which site is which. it s incredibly frustrating for americans to sit back and watch this happen. if you go to the heart of this
they say, look, donald trump is really, really good at turning out conservatives in rural areas. that is true. but the problem is, unless he s running against someone that is strongly, strongly, profoundly disliked by the center and even some democrats, which was the case for hillary clinton, the map looks really difficult for him. the president won my home state of wisconsin, but he did it by winning fewer votes than previously. incumbent presidents are are hard to beat, but in some ways, we ve lost our senses that we re not looking at on the ground.