surrounding him. so are you saying that they rolled up in tanks and said, hey, hosni, you are out of here or we are going to blow your head off? i wish i had been in the room when that confrontation took place. i doubt they said that. and the guard knows they are work for a man who is 2 years old and they are going to need paychecks in the future. everybody wanted mumbarak to resign. mumbarak, his son, and some of his business associates who had piled up huge amounts of money were afraid if they left power they would lose that money. but, this was not, as many have presented, some massive uprising of the people. at most, there were 200,000 people in the streets. bill: you said that earlier, right. yeah. that s not really all that much in cairo. bill: it was very, you know, as far as these things go, calm, not a lot of violence, except by the pro mumbarak thugs that came in one day. you say with certainty, doctor? are you sure this happened? well, yesterday he refused to leave
dictatorship is a temporary fix. bill: chavez is really. chavez, i covered the elections. twice elected. you may hate the guy, but a majority. bill: you know what happens there. i want to get back to israel for a moment. there have been not the israeli government, netanyahu told everybody shut up. but there have been people in israel who have said the united states should have backed mumbarak. they have you had have, you know, try to prop him up, so did saudi arabia. they were both wrong. tense conversation between president obama and the king of saudi arabia who said you can t throw mumbarak under the bus. he helped you out. is he looking out for his own turban. he may be the next to go so brutal in saudi arabia. wear turbans. bill: everybody thinks this is domino. let me deal with israel. i don t think this meaningful
bill: right. overnight. okay. but i predicted he would leave. so i mean it was pretty the writes wag on the proverbial wall. the army said, look, you are either out of here or we are going to take care of you, so see you later. where do you think mumbarak is going to go and were you surprised that the swiss immediately froze about $3.5 billion that he has or his associates have as well in switzerland? the surprise me. not the fact that they froze it. this is what these past few days was all about. was all about the money. mumbarak wanted guarantees that the money would be protected. nobody could give him those guarantees. he wouldn t leave until then. so they forced him out, froze the money. my guess is he is going to saudi arabia. the saudis have been very pro-mumbarak. they love him. no one else who wants him at this point. that s where i think he is going. he has got family in london. and he has probably got money other places stashed all over the place, right?
leave. bill: right. overnight. okay. but i predicted he would leave. so i mean it was pretty the writes wag on the proverbial wall. the army said, look, you are either out of here or we are going to take care of you, so see you later. where do you think mumbarak is going to go and were you surprised that the swiss immediately froze about $3.5 billion that he has or his associates have as well in switzerland? the surprise me. not the fact that they froze it. this is what these past few days was all about. was all about the money. mumbarak wanted guarantees that the money would be protected. nobody could give him those guarantees. he wouldn t leave until then. so they forced him out, froze the money. my guess is he is going to saudi arabia. the saudis have been very pro-mumbarak. they love him. no one else who wants him at this point. that s where i think he is going. he has got family in london. and he has probably got money
they call where they bury the elm perrists or the ruling families. they let them go in there, dressed as security guards. they had automatic weapons and for 45 minutes they shot them. they chased them. 5-year-old kid, a baby. bill: the reason they did that was in 97 kill the tourism industry. which it pretty much did. they did and people forget such enormous attraction they bill: here is my question. do you believe that strain of violence, because, as i said in talking points memo, i think the jihadists are now going to move into the neighborhood. the army is going to fight them, all right? i assume the secret police will continue to bring them down. but the jihadists have got to see an opportunity here to foment chaos in the vacuum of mumbarak. that certainly is a possibility. we have had their blueprint. we have seen what they can do. on the other hand, this is the time for the muslim brotherhood and, that s, you know, whatever the muslim brotherhood is, it s a bunch of ev