politicians refusal to expand obama s medicaid provision. nebraska, it took over 100,000 signatures to get that on the ballot. similar in montana. when you take it together, it can take time for truth about policy to get out. but it seems that voters, even in the red states, are seeing that this law helps people get health care, which can be hard to get. or put it simply like the musician big sean once said, i m rare as affordable health care, or going to wealth from welfare. subsidizing insurance appears to make that affordable health care less rare. expanding medicaid? it helps people get well with or without welfare. we ll go back up to the roof, out of the studio, and hear from the musician activist black thought about jared kushner s push for prison reform. i never knew there was a different solution to my
president trump s ire. good morning, congress member. thank you, alisyn. thank you for having me on the program. good to have you here. it was reported that when president trump found out you were a no vote, he said you were destroying the republican party. what was your response? well, just another day at the office for me, i guess. let me say this. i had two meetings last week with the president. center right group met on tuesday. i expressed my serious concerns and reservations. i told him i was leaning no. i came back on thursday and said i was against the bill. he did not take it as well the second and third time i said no. i get it. emotions are running high. they are saying things they shouldn t. i did raise concerns about the bill with the president. specifically the medicaid
boomer generation you can t get anything passed without their endorsement and right now this is shifting all of the cost on the state ton elderly and arguably it s going to disadvantage the low income medicaid recipient many of which the folks who voted for president trump. every action or change there s a mega reaction. and to alexis s point on this medicaid issue and red states working class voerts who voted for president trump. they re the ones who will get affected. what do you think? well, look, i don t think anybody should etch the text of the current reconciliation draft into stone tablets because we all know it s going to change, but think we saw some encouraging signs, it covers about 700 million americans, the building block of the system, it lowers taxes, reduces spending,
now but are a republican senator today calling that pure fantasy. senator graham calling it a fantasy. sunlen thank you very much. i have alexis glik with me, and t tevy troy, who served once upon a time secretary of health and human services, great to have both of you on, alexis, the smart business woman you know a thing or two about negotiating the middle ground. where s the ground between speaker paul ryan house version of this thing and really conservative folks on the right? the middle ground is absolutely going to have to be a change on the medicaid provision. arguably if i look at affordable care and this health care provision, really what it comes down to is what they re willing
to rebate back to the states in these grants is not nearly enough. during the affordable care act 31 states and the district of columbia opted and got federal funds to support the federal growth of medicaid. we have 16 republican governors. they do not want to see those entitlements to low income americans to be taken away, so number one they re doing to have to change what is the grant block at the federal level to those states right now it would increase in inflation right to 2020, and the second issue is that the hardest hit is the elderly american right now. the provision actually suggests they could pay five times the rate of a younger person. in the affordable care act that was three times a younger healthier person, so aarp keep in mind they represent 37 million americans, this baby