now but are a republican senator today calling that pure fantasy. senator graham calling it a fantasy. sunlen thank you very much. i have alexis glik with me, and t tevy troy, who served once upon a time secretary of health and human services, great to have both of you on, alexis, the smart business woman you know a thing or two about negotiating the middle ground. where s the ground between speaker paul ryan house version of this thing and really conservative folks on the right? the middle ground is absolutely going to have to be a change on the medicaid provision. arguably if i look at affordable care and this health care provision, really what it comes down to is what they re willing