had simply drifted off course. sally is here next. now on bbc news, it s time for hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. viktor 0rban can make a strong claim to be europe s most successful leader. after four consecutive election victories, he s admired by cultural conservatives and nationalists from moscow to washington. he wins elections, yes but is he a democrat or has he subverted democracy and undermined the cause of freedom notjust in hungary, but across the eu? well, my guest, zsuzsanna szelenyi, was his ally in the early days of the fidesz party. now she is an arch critic. but has 0rban found a politicalformula illiberal democracy for which his opponents have no answer? zsuzsanna szelenyi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for inviting me. it s a pleasure to have you on the show. when you look at your home country, hungary, today, in terms of its politics, its political culture, what do you see? well, hungary is in trouble. this is what i see first. it
and we re also going to save billions of dollars on going after criminals who commit fraud. a lot of people are saying to me they don t like the idea i m prepared to forgive up to $20,000 if you got a pell grant or $10,000 for anybody who has a student loan during the recession. well, guess what, we pay the so called ppp program, we paid significant i think it s $900 billion. don t hold me to that number, but it s well over 9 for anybody who had a tough time with their business during the pandemic so they could pay employees. but guess what, you may remember, i was running for office at the time, you all may remember it that i had a big fight with the former president. and maybe future president. bless me father. anyway, all kidding aside, and here s the deal, what happened was the folks are really going after me for trying to, and by the way, 90% of all debt forgiveness for student loans will go to, under my plan, 90% will go to families making under $75,000 a year. okay.
of freedom notjust in hungary, but across the eu? well, my guest, zsuzsanna szelenyi, was his ally in the early days of the fidesz party. now she is an arch critic. but has orban found a politicalformula illiberal democracy for which his opponents have no answer? zsuzsanna szelenyi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for inviting me. it s a pleasure to have you on the show. when you look at your home country, hungary, today, in terms of its politics, its political culture, what do you see? well, hungary is in trouble. this is what i see first. it is diverting for a track where we entered 30 years ago, the western way of life. the generation of politicians which are characterised by fidesz, viktor orban s party, where i started my political career 32 years ago, we thought we are the party of the west. actually, orban, even 15 years ago, mentioned in a speech that fidesz party is the new western generation, and what we see today is everything but that. so that, of course, mak
from mr reznikov who hasn t been personally implicated in the procurement scandal involving the purchase of rations at inflated prices. now on bbc news, hardtalk. welcome to hardtalk. i m stephen sackur. viktor orban can make a strong claim to be europe s most successful leader. after four consecutive election victories, he s admired by cultural conservatives and nationalists from moscow to washington. he wins elections, yes but is he a democrat or has he subverted democracy and undermined the cause of freedom notjust in hungary, but across the eu? well, my guest, zsuzsanna szelenyi, was his ally in the early days of the fidesz party. now she is an arch critic. but has orban found a politicalformula illiberal democracy for which his opponents have no answer? zsuzsanna szelenyi, welcome to hardtalk. thank you for inviting me. it s a pleasure to have you on the show. when you look at your home country, hungary, today, in terms of its politics, its political culture, wha
the generic version of matthew stone filed a new lawsui against the fda in a bid t ensure that its product doesn get pulled off the markets adding yet another strand of complication to this entir issue. because of how contentious and confusing and conflicting th situation has become in just a matter of days, it is almost guaranteed that regardless o how the fifth circuit rules in next month s hearing, it wil be appealed again and wind u back at the supreme court in a later date joined now by nancy nort president of the ceo the cente of reproductive rights nancy, good morning to you thank you for being with us on trying to get a sense for m viewers about where we are whe we woke up this morning. some say this is something t celebrate, others say we wer rolling backwards and we jus stopped rolling for the moment well let me just start with, i certainly am hugely relieved was last night, woke up this morning. still hugely relieved that a least for the next, i don know, six wee