and i ll leave without disturbing anything. would most hackers say that that s okay? thomas: yes. yes. anthony: it s in the service of knowledge, that s thomas: that s okay for most the hackers in our communities. i was lucky, i got into a very big, big hacker community here in shanghai and met a lot of great mentors. anthony: started in business at 21? thomas: exactly. anthony: quite an accomplishment. thomas: i didn t go to the college. anthony: you didn t go to college? thomas: i didn t go to the college. anthony: why not? thomas: most professors are way behind the, uh, the the development speed of the communities. anthony: why? your thomas: because anthony: your country is so advanced in so many other ways, why in this area? thomas: it s a network problem here in china. uh, we have the gfw. it s a great firewall and it blocked a lot of, uh, important information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technolo
information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technologies. anthony: right. thomas: which we don t teach in college at all. anthony: mm-hmm. thomas: and, uh, so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more serious, getting more and more serious here in china. anthony: because everyone is going to the silicon valley. thomas: uh, they offer better. anthony: right. thomas: obviously. oh, here they did anthony: oh, these are the famous ribs? thomas: yes. anthony: maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat, other than the soup dumplings of course, zi ran pai gu, or simply, cumin ribs. it takes two cooks working at once to make this dish. one deep-fries the ribs in hot oil until just right, another toasts the ginger, cumin and other spices in a wok, and then, in go the ribs. and if you re a devotee of what s called wok hei, you si
uh, we have the gfw. it s a great firewall and it blocked a lot of, uh, important information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technologies. anthony: right. thomas: which we don t teach in college at all. anthony: mm-hmm. thomas: and, uh, so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more serious, getting more and more serious here in china. anthony: because everyone is going to the silicon valley. thomas: uh, they offer better. anthony: right. thomas: obviously. oh, here they did anthony: oh, these are the famous ribs? thomas: yes. anthony: maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat, other than the soup dumplings of course, zi ran pai gu, or simply, cumin ribs. it takes two cooks working at once to make this dish.
it s a great firewall and it blocked a lot of, uh, important information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technologies. anthony: right. thomas: which we don t teach in college at all. anthony: mm-hmm. thomas: and, uh, so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more serious, getting more and more serious here in china. anthony: because everyone is going to the silicon valley. thomas: uh, they offer better. anthony: right. thomas: obviously. oh, here they did anthony: , these are the famous ribs? thomas: yes. anthony: maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat, other than the soup dumplings of course, zi ran pai gu, or simply, cumin ribs. it takes two cooks working at once to make this dish.
websites. inside china. and a lot of people, they can t get the cutting-edge technology, which we don t teach in college at all. so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more getting more and more serious here in china. because everyone s going to the silicon valley? they offer better. obviously. oh, here are the these are the famous ribs? yes. maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat other than the soup dumplings, of course? zeran paigu. or simply, cumin ribs. it takes two cooks working at once to make this dish. one deep fries the ribs in hot oil until just right.