information websites inside china and a lot of people they cannot get the cutting-edge technologies. >> anthony: right. >> thomas: which we don't teach in college at all. >> anthony: mm-hmm. >> thomas: and, uh, so the human resource problem and the manpower problem is more and more serious, getting more and more serious here in china. >> anthony: because everyone is going to the silicon valley. >> thomas: uh, they offer better. >> anthony: right. >> thomas: obviously. oh, here they did -- >> anthony: oh, these are the famous ribs? >> thomas: yes. >> anthony: maybe the number one thing that the seriously food-crazed traveler coming back from shanghai will tell you to eat, other than the soup dumplings of course, zi ran pai gu, or simply, cumin ribs. ♪ it takes two cooks working at once to make this dish. one deep-fries the ribs in hot oil until just right, another toasts the ginger, cumin and other spices in a wok, and then, in go the ribs. and if you're a devotee of what's called "wok hei," you sit as close to the kitchen as possible to capture that