smith focuses on that. so that so me to me is the count of the felony. and conspiracy to interfere with the lawful function of government. that is a catch-all. and then the third statute reported as in the target letter is the deprivation of civil rights. i think the theory there would be that the president took actions to deprive people of their right to vote by interfering with the election, by discrediting or attempting to not recognize their vote, their votes for president biden. and so interfering with that fundamental civil rights. that was not one of the statutes that we recommended. but i could see a path there. i think that the really interesting other looming question that is not in the target letter is seditious conspiracy. a lot of the proud boys and oathkeepers have been charged
len nick is back with us. joining us, former assistant u.s. attorney glenn kirschner is back, new york times editorial reporter mara gay is here. carol len nick, i have very mixed feelings about this story and this body of reporting which is all completely accurate, completely newsworthy. but i feel like the volume business has always served trump. so much scandal, we won t pay attention to all of it. so much criminality, we ll become numb to any of it. what do you make of this excellent body of reporting? there s a lot to chew on, isn t there? when you put up the calendar, we all as reporters are kind of dumb struck by how much criminal exposure donald trump has had, but for all of them to collide as they have, basically as the company and political parties
will russell. you can work around those who declined to disclose information that investigators were asking them about. and we had a lot of people, you saw them, up front who did ultimately comply and provide as much information as they know. but that is not to say that will russell is valuable and was probably with the former president during important moments. and potentially spent a lot of time with him one-on-one in a capacity that some of the other staffers that cooperated like pat cipollone but in terms of reading the tea leaves, there is
all the investigators felt like their work was important. but mostly in the educational campaign component, how to convey to the american public and walk them through why they should care about this. the accountability portion is the key piece of the puzzle to a lot of people who have been working on this for years now. and we already know that lot of the key witnesses involved with received target letters in other capacities, someone like mark meadows who was possibly probably the person who might be able to give you the most accurate number of the amount of people who tried to get to president trump on january 6. we know that he is cooperating with the january 6 team before the grand jury. and so how far that
judge mcfadden but more that the grand jury appearance was quite lengthy because this was happening this afternoon. and i think there was a lot of questioning as there should be. . all right. we ll have much more on all of this including a closer look being into that statute around civil rights and vote fraud. and plus another threat posted to the ex-president social media platform. warning again of violence ahead. and how national security experts and prosecutors are responding. and later in the show, how republicans today showcasing a new voice spreading disinformation. and he is running from for president. for president.