do. this was a first test, and i think she did very, very well. the bar constantly gets lifted, and people start drilling down on your answers, and the things that worked tonight for her will not work a month or two months from now or on a debate stage. so she s got to decide where she s going to plant her feet even if at times it means saying, no, i don t think six weeks is appropriate or, no, i don t you know, i don t think you win this by trying to finesse your way through the process. i don t think that s going to work. one of the things she did i think that came from being out on the campaign trail is taking big policy issues and making them relatable. she took ukraine. there s been a lot of conversation about should we have continued support for ukraine? a lot of people say there needs to be certainly more transparency. she took the policy issue and made it personal in terms of this is about freedom. this is about freedom in the
it s distasteful to try to claim credit or give credit to anyone besides the nine innocent souls who lost their lives in bible study. now, what she did do is demonstrate leadership at a critical time in the state, in the immediate aftermath of the walter scott shooting, which a lot of people don t remember or paper over. same summer. no question that it passed a significant body cam bill in south carolina. what she did was she gave a lot of her colleagues and policymakers in the state, who had never acted over the course of time on this issue of removing the flag from the statehouse grounds, she gave them cover to do so. and that s leadership, and leadership is oftentimes brought about and defined by it s also calling it s calling a thing a thing, and that s my only point. go ahead. you ve been itching. go ahead. i don t think she s hesitated to call it racism.
government spending, even things like guns and the border and china. but i was keeping track. it took her 70 minutes to say the word woke after she was asked a question about it. i thought that was notable too. i think she did not steer the conversation into the territory of things that would get you retweets and likes on social media. and that was a choice. but when she did get to it, she really went for it on those issues of so-called woke-ism. there s a lot to say about that, but those are the things that struck me. there was a moment on that issue, she was talking about trying to personalize it saying that her daughter ran track in school and she couldn t imagine what it would be like for her to be in a locker room with somebody who was born a man. and then questioned whether or not that has an impact on teenage suicide among girls. and then jake pushed back on the other side of that, which is that there s also a high rate of
chunk. but to say that there are not compassionate conservatives i have a lot of republican friends, some of them on this stage here. i m not denigrating all republicans. i will tell you that three-quarters of the republican vote right now are going to donald trump and a guy who s trying to be donald trump, okay? that s not compassionate conservatism, and that s where they think the republican party is right now, and that is a problem for a candidate whose mind-set is not there. all right. we re going to leave it there. we have to get in a quick break. we ll continue that conversation, everyone. obviously we ll be right back. we are breaking down everything from our town hall with nikki haley, including a fact check coming up from daniel dale right after this. or the 200-year-old e in the backyard. or t their neighbors down the hill. but one thing they did know is exactly how much they d pay. because vrbo is different. you see the total price up front.
future president, a future republican president, should they win, would continue funding ukraine. i wonder what officials make of comments like nikki haley s compared to comments like those of trump. reporter: well, i think they d be full i on board with what nikki haley said in the town hall tonight. i was actually sitting with an adviser to ukraine s presidency just a couple of days ago. one of the points we made was pretty much the point nikki haley made in the town hall tonight. he s saying, look, to them this is a battle between autocracy and democracy. if ukraine loses, then autocracy wins. they think that is something where the west should have a vested interest in that. he said the west is supporting ukraine because the west is supporting themselves. so clearly the ukrainians are trying to frame it that way in a battle that is bigger than ukraine, which is exactly what nikki haley said tonight as well. however, i think one of the things that s really important to point out is