i agree with that. joe manchin has been very clear. to blame him, the democratic party blaming him wins them nothing. just like blaming john mccain over obamacare didn t win much of the gop anything. because what the american people wanted was something to get done. in this case they re not getting anything done. this is the president that said that he was going to be the statesman to get it done. he was going to work with democrats and republicans. we have not seen that. when i hear build back better is popular, it s not. it s popular with democrats, but democrats don t run the country. there s more than democrats here. we have to be open to that. joe manchin gave an opportunity to democrats. they can hear that or they can t. at this point, they re pushing back on them. sandra: kelly, there s going to be a tough conversation here. we don t know. he didn t go into detail, joe manchin. what he meant when they put some things out there that are inexecutable. there s some things as la
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