him with the general election. it s a critical few days, th other point i want to make i what s so ridiculous, what s happening and even us in the media,, look donald trump is gonna be indicted, he ll b asked to voluntarily appear in a courthouse which dozens of people do every day across the united states. paul manafort did it, michae flynn did it, steve bannon s done it multiple times he will come in, he will b arraigned, he ll get bail this is not a violent crime he ll get a fair trial there s no need to be incite violence here. he won t be arrested the prosecutors and defens attorneys work out of time and place, and he will, the justic department will proceed. and, frankly maybe hold be acquitted enough that s what a jury decides, that s our system we re living in a world o these are all, if the manhatta da has not yet confirmed any o this lisa, i gotta ask you. michael cohen spent hour speaking to the manhattan gran jury this week after trump turned down his own invitation to
haven t set foot in the fb agent in 20 years and someho these conspiracy theories, experts that are coming forwar to say the governments wil weaponize, ignoring the fact that donald trump abused pardo power. and of ridden prosecutions he interviewed in the justic department he pardoned steve bannon and roger stone. all of the things and a litany of things that donald trump is dawn to undermine ou democratic institutions. this is all to distract from that because i think that is what the base wants. wow, can you answer thi court? why are marjorie taylor greene and james comer going to visit january six defendants in jail what is out about? you know interesting, the other week i think it wa reported that there was this somma that has been put out by people that are in jail fo january six and set to that is donald trump and the backgroun being a part of this son and i guess it just tells yo that for some reason and i don t know what that reason is
phone calls, or text aimed a state or local officials, an public remarks targeting them, and 125 social media posts the report also provided damning evidence about trump s state of mind during the attack according to the report, as th violence was underway, a trump aide, robert gabriel, texted someone, potus i m sure is loving this. the decision whether or not to pursue criminal charges agains trump not lies with the justic department, but the committe they recommendations on how to prevent another january 6t rally happening. notably, congressional committees to examine a formal mechanism to evaluate barrin trump and others mentioned i the report from holding future office under the 14t amendment. joining me now, charles rights attorney msnbc lega analyst and host of the charle goldman podcast, and tumble, ryan senior executive at bloomberg opinion and msnb
all the other stuff that w needed to do in the post war period, i think that contributed to all the seditio defendants and all there bettors and congress being lef off the hook because people thought, hey, listen, in terms of nazis an that threat, we went over ther and we fought them and we beat them that threat is over. we don t think about i anymore. so, these people who did not get successfully prosecuted by the justice department, melted back into the sauce of america extremism. and in some ways, they v haunted us ever since. and here is one from it is not a real name. one of those twitter names what would you think is th number one take away for doj i they listened to the ultra podcast? i am sure they are listening it is the number one podcast o the planet we know merrick garland is listening to that at the gym thank you for that question
and maybe they re no listening. but they do listen to you. so i gotta tell it right now the takeaway for the justice department is, do not be smo about this asserted value that nobody is above the law. the justice department in five does not have a great record o holding people to account by the criminal law if they are a person who has a lot o political power. and saying that the justic department is not influenced b political pressure, isn influenced by people threatening them politically either threatening them in congress or from the executive branch, the historical recor shows that the justice department has been pushed around that a senator threatens t increase oversight of th justice department unless they prosecutor gets fired. attorney general fired a prosecutor for that meeting the president pressured th attorney general to fire another prosecutor because tha prosecutor was one of hi friends. the justice department has not been great at holding people t account when they