every stripe. very few fundamentalists do acts of violence. trying to find the people willing to do kt as acts of vio is hard. perhaps we will pick it up from there later on in the other. jonathan gillian, peter bergen, appreciate it. it is important to believe that people that were gunned down because they went to work and attended a holiday party with their coworkers. we hear from victims, loved ones. they were cherished family members, best friends, parents, 14 people between 26 and 60 who spent their final day celebrating together, kissing their loved ones good-bye in the morning, never believing they wouldn t come home. the thought that was running through my mind was just, no, no, no, this isn t true. ryan reyes drove his
protected. not just from the long rifle that police say he had. but also the propane tanks. yes, it looked like one incident isn t one building at the end of that time. but before then, an awful lot of people potentially affected. we have on the phone with us now, cnn law enforcement analyst jonathan gillian. jonath jonathan, you were part of this story when it was breaking on air. i m wondering agency you re watching this man, and this man walked out in handcuffs, were you surprised by that? well, i have to say yes and no, the nature of the facility at which he was at, my first thought was when it started coming out that he was in planned parenthood, i just assumed this is somebody with an
once the arrest has been made, okay, now they have to clear that building and get further intelligence from the individuals that were in there or possibly being held hostage to find out where he went in that building. art roderick, jonathan gillian, stay with me. when we come back, we ll talk to someone who has been on lockdown in colorado springs for the last five hours. i m brooke baldwin. you re watching cnn.
lot, did this person come on foot? a lot of this is interviewing people. who saw what, trying to match up information and determine did he come on foot, did he come in a car, was he dropped off. what does the video look like? who can help us understand what we have here? ron, thank you so much, standby because we could be getting a police presser not too long from now. more information at this point what we do know police tell us they are still encountering gunfire. we ve heard from two local hospitals that six people have been transported to the hospital. the police tell us three of theirs, three officers have been injured. i m joined here in new york by harry houck, a cnn law enforcement analyst, former nypd detective, also by jonathan gillian, former navy s.e.a.l. jonathan, still encountering gunfire. right. what does that tell you? well, it tells me that they probably are getting a better idea if not knowing for sure where this shooter is at.
going to perhaps attack him with the knife. cnn law enforcement analyst jonathan gillian joining me now sh, a former police officer, and former fbi, special agent, and joining him is hln legal analyst and attorney joey jackson. joey, that lawyer has been working very hard for a year to mine every aspect of what we could and couldn t see to come up with some kind of defense. we give the benefit of the doubt in this country to those who are accused of crime, but you are not buying anything that he says? i am not. and also working hard are the prosecutors who put together the case, and ultimately decided it is a first de gree mu-degree mu. and step back to the analysis of what he is saying, that the client was protecting himself and the other officer, and why didn t the other officers protect themselves to shoot as well. why do i bring it up? the reasonableness of the action. and there is a three-prong assessment of the case. was there an immediate threat.