who s talking and what s going on. it will take as mr. pinion said, it will take some message decoding for people or could just turn into an alibi for donald trump as a running mate. thank you all, very great to get all your perspectives. all right, next, the man charged in the subway chokehold death of jordan neely speaking out. he says he would do it over again.
you see the state investigation going forward? jonathan, there s nothing to say that the state case in new york has to go first, though it was the first filed. you could see the feds going first after all. i agree with jon sale, this is the least strong of the four cases. to get back to senator mccaskill s question about the bill of particulars, let me actually say from a prosecutor s standpoint, i think that the prosecutor in new york should give the specifics on what that second charge is. it s important. right now, it s a misdemeanor unless you have a second crime. a bill of particulars is act fact about the facts, not the law. the d.a. should give it up anyway. we re talking about the first time a former president has ever been indicted. this is not the time to play hide the ball. interesting. criminal defense attorney and former watergate prosecutor, jon sale. and state attorney for palm beach county, dave aronberg. thank you, both, very much for coming on this morning. befo
he trashes, the judges that trump trashes, they re all going to protect him because that s what our system is all about. david, sam stein here. to get back to the original story about the lawyer quitting, look, i know you re a prosecutor not a defense lawyer, but i m curious, have you ever seen a client like this, someone who steps in it in his own legal cases all the time, whose lawyers end up in legal trouble? if you were approached by donald trump to be a defense lawyer, how would you go about even considering the case at this juncture? i m curious for your thoughts on what he is like as a client. yeah, good to be with you, sam. as a prosecutor, i don t have to worry about those things. i ve never seen a client like it. jon sale turned down donald trump, so it is good to be with jon. he had his own reasons for it. to me, what stood out with the
independent. if their advice isn t followed, they may move on. if you re running for president, you can t keep your mouth shut. like any client, i d say, don t say anything to the media. when someone is running for president, they can t say, i m not commenting. it is an untenable situation, unbelievable one. jon, also some of the lawyers for donald trump may be in legal hot water themselves. let s talk about the cases. what is your assessment right now? the manhattan one is moving forward slowly. you know, we were all eyes toward georgia in the coming months. where do you think things go from here? well, i think the georgia, the fulton county district attorney, was giving a signal to the feds so they didn t make the same mistake the manhattan d.a. made, of starting with the weakness case. she was saying, hey, guys, what i m going to do, and it is probably going to bring indictments, it s going to be in the summer. if you want to do something first, which may be more appropriate
get everything you re entitled to through discovery, that is in the process. i m sure this case is not going to go quickly, but i don t think there is anything donald trump i mean, jon might know better but i don t think there is anything donald trump can do to make this case go beyond just year s election. that d be a long time for a state criminal case to linger. this isn t the feds. feds take forever. state prosecutors are used to having to go much more quickly than the federal criminal justice system is. i assume you believe this case would be tried before next november. i m not a fan of that case going first because when you try a former president, you want to go with your strongest case. i think the heart of all of this is him allegedly destroying our constitution. i think that should go first. but a bill of particulars, it s not a delaying tactic. but it s not up to alvin bragg if he gets a bill of