i m an equal opportunity critic. i mean i think that before the evidence has been heard by the public, i think the house has already decided they re going to impeach. likewise i think for the same partisan reasons, we re not going to get 20 republicans to break ranks. simple arithmetic. three or four maybe. but anyone who thinks we re going to get 20 in watergate, peter rodino, who was a very decent man, he brought the other side in. he gradually shared the evidence with them, and it became a bipartisan revelation that the evidence justified impeachment. jon, what do you think is the most damaging piece of testimony for the president of what you ve heard so far? the most damaging testimony is that of decent americans like ambassador taylor who are going to risk their career and are going to just say the truth. and it s putting pieces of a
and listen to bill taylor and george kent, marie yovanovitch and you do it this week, and you listen to witness after witness come forward, don t follow the red herrings. don t chase the shiny object. don t fall for the okey-doke. don t be distracted. focus on the substance, on the facts. who better to weigh in on what to expect from this week s hearings than a watergate prosecutor who also just happens to be happens to have briefly represented rudy giuliani at the start of this impeachment inquiry. there s jon sale. he weighs in next. man: sneezes skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. oh, what a relief it is! so fast! dana-farber cancer institute discovered the pd-l1 pathway. pd-l1. they changed how the world fights cancer.
puzzle together. and either it fits or it doesn t. and i think that the problem with taking one piece of evidence over another is i think everyone should keep an open mind. and we all have our biases. i mean who are we kidding? but i would try to keep an open mind, and i would hope the senators if he s impeached as jurors would keep an open mind and not single out one piece of evidence or another. multiple witnesses have testified that there was a shakedown, jon, and when top diplomat to ukraine bill taylor testifies publicly on wednesday, we re going to hear it on live tv. the public has not gotten to see that, but they will. if the difference is there s going to be public cross-examination, that is usually the leveler that enables like in a jury with a trial, it enables people to determine i believe it or i don t. after we see that without the spin from the congressmen on either side, i think the people have to decide. you cannot impeach a president and convict him and remove an
defenses so far when it comes to this summary as you said? well, i think that as you pointed out, many of them are diversions. and if it was a court of law, a judge would instruct the jury disregard this. only focus on what s before you. but i keep coming back to they re playing to public opinion. right. they re playing to the president s base. and our politicians are going to vote in the house according to how they think their constituents. the president, for better or for worse, can fill a stadium out in middle america. this is going to be a popularity contest. mm-hmm. it s the court of public opinion, not necessarily a court of law. jon sale that s right. i appreciate your time. no, i don t mean it should be that way. i mean that s what i m saying. you re saying that s the way it is, yeah. right, in my opinion. right. thank you, jon sale. appreciate your time. thanks for having me, don. absolutely. well, we have a huge week ahead of us in this impeachme
and you do it this week, and you listen to witness after witness come forward, don t follow the red herrings. don t chase the shiny object. don t fall for the okey-doke. don t be distracted. focus on the substance, on the facts. who better to weigh in on what to expect from this week s hearings than a watergate prosecutor who also just happens to be happens to have briefly represented rudy giuliani at the start of this impeachment inquiry. there s jon sale. he weighs in next. look, it s just like when i tell people about saving with geico. be confident. stand up straight. and speak with purpose. yeah? go on, give it a practice run. kelsey. kelsey.