trauma, that feeling goes into overdrive. sensing her ex-husband was a danger to her child, jen s mother lynn fled with her daughter to southern california. when you first came here you were essentially in hiding? yeah. we were renting rooms and were sleeping on couches, and we were kind of semi homeless. this place, while it may look like paradise, marks a difficult chapter in jen s life. this is where my mom was working. she had to take very low-income jobs. we were just very poor. i often couldn t get to a doctor to get my asthma medication, i didn t have glasses. it was an incredibly difficult time and throughout i kept building up my father in my memory. he became a prince in my mind.
so jen, what did you think of that? i thought it was incredible. they are really amazing people, like really. just incredible. i really felt it was a really powerful moment just being present for that. i felt so moved by their forgiveness. yeah. i heard john s family say they forgive your father. do you forgive him? my mom says that forgiveness is a journey, it s not a destination, and we both talk about how we re not there yet. so no, i haven t. but i m working towards it. yeah. ssing. the ceramides in cerave. they help restore my natural barrier, so i can lock in moisture. and keep us protected. we ve got to have each other s backs. and fronts. cerave. what your skin craves.
and since the onset of the drought we ve doubled our efforts. i grew up in the forests out in this area and honestly it s heartbreaking to see all these trees dying. what guides me is ensuring that the public is going to be safer and that these forests can be sustained and enjoyed by the community in the future. children of murderers, they wonder if there is something wrong with them, how could their parent do this? are they going to end up like their parent? jen has spent much of her life holding on to secrets and shame, but today, she s letting go. as a trained counselor with nearly 20 years experience, jen is speaking up and fighting stigma. children of highly violent
hurt a bunch of people. then i looked up and i said, are the hurt people dead? she said, yes, and that s when she started crying. that s the day your life changed forever? yeah. during the years jen and her mom were in hiding, jen s father married susan and embarked on a very dark path. in 1983, along california s highway 101, a man named john hellier picked up two hitchhikers. 24 hours later he was dead. his passengers, meek call and susan carson had killed him, and it wasn t their only murder. after authorities arrested the car sons for john s murder, michael wrote a letter from jail to the san francisco chronicle making his own demand. my father said they would confess to two more murders if they could have a live press conference. 35 years ago, investigators granted their wish. during a taped press conference,
i couldn t put together how a loving father can also be capable of such terrible things. you want it touched up a little bit? this is jen carson. at 43 years old, jen has returned home to care for her mother, with whom she share as close bond and a dark history.