approach it. it s well thought out. it s feasible. it s fiscally responsible. he s illustrating some compassionate conservatism that i think the american people and ultimately our congress may be able to get behind. compare that to donald trump s approach. you know, i couldn t agree more with cheri. this mass deportation of some 12 million people living in this country today only to turn around and bring them back, you know, doesn t make any sense. it would cost somewhere around $300 billion and the american taxpayer would be stuck with that bill, and at the same time industries like the construction industry, the agricultural industry, the hospitality industry would be decimated if that plan ever was allowed to happen. i want you both to respond to something. i read in the new york times this morning and it really struck me, let s pull it up, the change in mr. bush s tone is a calculated strategy with two different but crucial aims now that mr. trump is proving to be
a long-term obstacle, not a passing nuance. a long-term obstacle, not a passing nuisance, not nuance, excuse me. nuisance. so, cheri, to you first, what do you think? that s why i m saying is this bush 2.0? well, he s taking on trump. he s saying if this is a serious candidate, and the polls say he is, he needs to be held to account like any other candidate. rather than letting this die out, this trump phenomena, whatever you want to call it, he s taking it on. that s a little feistier, that s a different plan, and it s probably the right plan that they all should do. so you think this is the jeb bush that voters want to see? i think so. and i think that a lot of it, too, is just becoming accustomed to the different candidates and the different personalities. if his authentic self is measured and more thoughtful, i don t think he should turn it on too much and try to out-trump trump. nobody should want to do that. when you look at how he s doing
you haven t seen a change in him. look, nobody was getting a lot of press and a lot of attention in recent weeks because of donald trump. donald trump s comments about jeb bush are ridiculous frankly. it s inappropriate to talk about another candidate that way and it doesn t really make a point. where i do think mr. trump has an issue everything else he s talking about, about mass deportation and that sort of thing is ridiculous, but he is pushing for border security, and whether it s a wall, partial wall, a fence or whatever, i think that jeb bush is right to address that. every candidate who addresses border security, that s a good thing, but what none of them are really doing, a little bit rubio a little bit huckabee i think, is separating out border security from the other issues, from deportation and amnesty and everything in between. for the past 20 years, washington has been punting on that. we could have had border security, wall, fence, whatever it is for the past 20 yea
hundreds of billions of dollars. it will violate people s civil liberties. it will create friction with our third largest trading partner that s not necessary, and i think he s wrong about this. trump took issue with those comments from bush. listen. jeb bush is a nice person. he doesn t have the energy or the capacity to make our country great again. that i can tell you 100%, and do you need the wall. the wall is very important. joining me now to talk all about it, republican strategist sheri jacobus and javier pa lamolis. thank you both for being here. sheri, let me begin with you. is this jeb bush 2.0 and if so is this the right jeb bush to win the primary? well, i think he s fine. i don t think he has to somehow be more energetic just because donald trump says he has to, but, look, everybody is familiar with jeb bush. he has a solid record. i think he s doing the tortoise and the hare game
once you secure the border, a lot of these other issues kind of go away. i m, frankly, waiting for one of the candidates to be a little bit stronger on that point and that kind of takes care of the trump problem, too. but the 11 million undocumented workers doesn t go away if you secure the border. that s one issue and that s getting a lot of attention. javier, to you, how do you think jeb bush is resonating now with latino voters after those anchor baby comments and controversy? a new gallup survey shows he has an 11% favorability rating among hispanics, the highest in the field. first of all, poppy, i think that his trip to mcallen, texas, was well timed and well received. by the way, mcallen is my hometown. it s a community that s about 94% hispanic. they certainly understand the real challenges of dealing with a broken immigration system. i think that governor bush has approached this issue the way we want an american president to