hundreds of billions of dollars. it will violate people's civil liberties. it will create friction with our third largest trading partner that's not necessary, and i think he's wrong about this. >> trump took issue with those comments from bush. listen. >> jeb bush is a nice person. he doesn't have the energy or the capacity to make our country great again. that i can tell you 100%, and do you need the wall. the wall is very important. >> joining me now to talk all about it, republican strategist sheri jacobus and javier pa lamolis. thank you both for being here. sheri, let me begin with you. is this jeb bush 2.0 and if so is this the right jeb bush to win the primary? >> well, i think he's fine. i don't think he has to somehow be more energetic just because donald trump says he has to, but, look, everybody is familiar with jeb bush. he has a solid record. i think he's doing the tortoise and the hare game --