>> you haven't seen a change in him. >> look, nobody was getting a lot of press and a lot of attention in recent weeks because of donald trump. donald trump's comments about jeb bush are ridiculous frankly. it's inappropriate to talk about another candidate that way and it doesn't really make a point. where i do think mr. trump has an issue -- everything else he's talking about, about mass deportation and that sort of thing is ridiculous, but he is pushing for border security, and whether it's a wall, partial wall, a fence or whatever, i think that jeb bush is right to address that. every candidate who addresses border security, that's a good thing, but what none of them are really doing, a little bit rubio a little bit huckabee i think, is separating out border security from the other issues, from deportation and amnesty and everything in between. for the past 20 years, washington has been punting on that. we could have had border security, wall, fence, whatever it is for the past 20 years, but they've mixed it up with these other issues -- >> that's interesting that you have to deal with --