hello, i m ros atkins. welcome to this week s media show. we re going to talk about bbc three because it s back as a linear television channel six years after the bbc decided it shouldn t be one of those, and we ll talk about spotify and joe rogan. he s in the middle of a storm over covid misinformation that may have been on his podcast, and some people are saying, should spotify really be funding content like that? we will get into all the issues that raises. let me introduce you to our guests. we have elizabeth dwoskin, silicon valley correspondent at the washington post, jake kanter, media correspondent at the times, rosanna pound woods, who s producer of the catch up on bbc three, and batya ungar sargon, deputy opinion editor on newsweek. and, batya, iwonder, you commission lots of opinion pieces.
it s a really loud noise on which we can place our most successful shows and launch new talent from, it s the place from which we can shout and say, this is the place for you. in one switch, you switch it on. you can relax and see your world and your struggles reflected. there is obviously evidence as well in the industry. enders have done some research, and nielsen in america have done some research, that shows that tv is still used for watching cable and free to air services. it is still a real moment. the bbc has gathered 5 million people to watch green planet live on bbc one. the apprentice is still a really big live viewing experience for young audiences. tv provides a moment for people to be together and to drive conversation, where people want to share things together at a specific moment in time. just look at strictly. jake kanter, media correspondent at the times, are you convinced? good afternoon. well, i think much like eating with my ex, which was a key show on relaunch n
claims and that something that is true in isolation will be used to push false claims about the vaccine, for example. and we often see that in discussions like on podcasts, where people will go back and forth, they will be trying to understand someone else s perspective, and it spirals and spirals. and briefly, elizabeth, finally, do you think that technology companies, which is what they were initially, like spotify, are geared up to handle these editorial challenges? of course they should be. spotify isn t just a technology i company, it s a media company. and, yes, that s what its- actual employees have been asking since the minute. that they signed the deal with rogan in 2020. its entire employee base said, well, let sjust develop somej editorial control now that - we re in the podcast business, just the way any other. company like the bbc or the washington post that s in the podcast - business does it. i ve got to exert a little bit of controljust on this programme because
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