are geared up to handle these editorial challenges? of course they should be. spotify isn t just a technology i company, it s a media company. and, yes, that s what its- actual employees have been asking since the minute. that they signed the deal with rogan in 2020. its entire employee base said, well, let sjust develop somej editorial control now that - we re in the podcast business, just the way any other. company like the bbc or the washington post that s in the podcast - business does it. i ve got to exert a little bit of controljust on this programme because we re completely out of time. it s been fascinating talking with all of you. thank you very much, elizabeth dwoskin, jake kanter, batya ungar sargon, marianna spring and, earlier, rosanna pound woods. and from me and all of the media show team, bye bye. hello. a colder day for all of us on thursday, but across the northern half of the country,
and really caused these parents who suffered the most unspeakable tragedy to suffer even further. while we re sitting around arguing over joe rogan, this is the real price of these things. and that s why you need to have fact checking and you have to be able to push back on really dangerous misinformation. it seems really simple, but they want to make it complex. but then, kara, is this not about spotify and not about joe rogan, but about regulation? right? i can t spew mountains of misinformation here in this seat, because we are regulated. spotify isn t, rogan isn t. rogan hasn t violated anything. no, he hasn t. that s absolutely true. i think the problem is, is when you want what regulation are you looking for? look, howard stern was fined the companies that ran howard stern were fined millions and millions of dollars almost constantly, he was sort of dirty, essentially. because the fcc was regulating it. and the so the question is, can
and briefly, elizabeth, finally, do you think that technology companies, which is what they were initially, like spotify, are geared up to handle these editorial challenges? of course they should be. spotify isn t just a technology i company, it s a media company. and, yes, that s what its actual employees have been asking. since the minute that they signed the deal with rogan in 2020. - its entire employee base said, well, let sjust develop somej editorial control now that - we re in the podcast business, just the way any other company like the bbc or the washington i post that s in the podcast business does it. - i ve got to exert a little bit of controljust on this programme because we re completely out of time. it s been fascinating talking with all of you. thank you very much, elizabeth dwoskin, jake kanter, batya ungar sargon, marianna spring and, earlier, rosanna pound woods. and from me and all of the media show team, bye bye.
claims and that something that is true in isolation will be used to push false claims about the vaccine, for example. and we often see that in discussions like on podcasts, where people will go back and forth, they will be trying to understand someone else s perspective, and it spirals and spirals. and briefly, elizabeth, finally, do you think that technology companies, which is what they were initially, like spotify, are geared up to handle these editorial challenges? of course they should be. spotify isn t just a technology i company, it s a media company. and, yes, that s what its- actual employees have been asking since the minute. that they signed the deal with rogan in 2020. its entire employee base said, well, let sjust develop somej editorial control now that - we re in the podcast business, just the way any other. company like the bbc or the washington post that s in the podcast - business does it. i ve got to exert a little bit of controljust on this programme because
something false. there have been a number of something false. there have been a number of false claims about fertility. number of false claims about fertility, suggesting the vaccine will make you infertile, when there is a total will make you infertile, when there is a total lack of scientific evidence. all kinds of doctors and experts evidence. all kinds of doctors and experts on evidence. all kinds of doctors and experts on this topic say they don t understand experts on this topic say they don t understand by what biological mechanism that could happen. we often mechanism that could happen. we often find mechanism that could happen. we often find there is a lack of evidence often find there is a lack of evidence to back up some things and then something that is true in isolation then something that is true in isolation will be used to push false claims isolation will be used to push false claims about the vaccine, for example claims about the vaccine, for exam