Reporter certainly. That will be a challenge for some of them especially in districts where the president is very popular. If members did not side with him on this. I think the big question right now is will it get to the floor . Thats a decision that Doesnt Reside in the white house. Its really a decision for the majority leaders of the republicans, Kevin Mccarthy a long with the speaker, they run the floor. If they believe it is sort of a doomed bill, theyve got to make a calculation about tip typically you could see them not put it on the floor with that political exposure for each and every member to be recorded on something that went nowhere. Thats typically how this goes. We saw the president saying he wanted a vote. That was a point of leverage. In the time weve been talking about this and when weve been updating our own whip counts and describing the mood and the atmosphere, i can assure you, if there were people in leadership who thought we had that wrong, they would be callin
more to build the impeachment case. they re going to interview the state department official who warned that the smoking gun text messages, that it was in fact crazy to hold up aid. also breaking tonight, we re learning more about speaker pelosi s impeachment strategy. nbc s heidi przybyla reporting that democrats are zeroing in on a framework for the impeachment case focusing on trump s abuse of power with his actions related to ukraine. with me now nbc news correspondent heidi przybyla, former federal prosecutor john flannery, and david frum, a former economic speech writer for george w. bush and now senior editor for the atlantic. heidi, let s begin with you with your reporting on how democrats are thinking about trying to frame these articles of impeachment. what have you learned? right, amen, they re making a very narrow case on ukraine and abuse of power, that they believe everything that happened
from trump s legal team. also, new ties on that trump may be worried about losing some gop support on the topic of impeachment. plus, trump calls part of the u.s. constitution, quote, phony, and he gives up on his plans for a global summit at his own golf resort. he was honestly surprised at the level of pushback. at the end of the day, he still considers himself to be in the hospitality business. i m ayman mohyeldin in for ari melber. you are watching the beat on msnbc. in . while we stowin and goin but that s cool, i know for a fact your suv does not suck. and why is that? it aint got that vacuum in the back, whoo! sucking stuff up! what else are we gonna find? we got to go. vacuum in the back, hallelujah! get 0% financing for 60 months plus $2,250 total bonus cash on the 2019 chrysler pacifica.
i think it s going to be a harder and harder case to make, at least to the majority of the population that isn t in trump s die-hard base that may be unpersuadable at this point. what do you make of the fact that even jay sekulow, the president s personal attorney in all of this who has somewhat remained above the fray of the personal inner works of the president. he is not rudy giuliani. he always seemed to have been a loyal foot soldier, legal foot soldier if you want for the president. but now he is pictured with these guy, and he is saying he is not worried about any exposure. i mean should he be worried about exposure? i mean, i m not an attorney, but if i were him, i would get one. anybody who is tan jengially or directly related is probably going to be put under oath. right. at a minimum, they re going to answer questions. the smart ones aren t going to throw themselves under the bus to protect someone else. one of the other phenomenon you re going to see in this
united states. yeah. but that s his background. he wanted to put on a show. he wanted to take care of folks. he is in the hotel business. your thoughts on that, mick mulvaney saying at the end of the day he is still in the hotel business. well, that s directly contrary to what president trump told us when he won the election. he said he was going to lead the busine businesses to his son and he was going to be the president of the united states and there would be a separation between the businesses and the president. that has not happened. this president has used his office to promote his business. he wants to be in the hotel business, that s just fine. he needs to be impeached by the house, convicted by the senate and they can send him become to new york and he can try to be in the hotel business. but he has no business doing this. all right, richard painter, always a pleasure. thanks for your insights. thanks. ahead, a new twist in the roger stone trial involving the god