staffed. amazing. adrian, heather, thank you both so much. i want to bring into this conversation ohio democratic congressman tim ryan, he is the co-chair of the house manufacturing caucus which he also co-founded nearly 20 years ago. he has seen it all. he s also currently running for u.s. senate. this is amazing. you and i have not had this conversation. do you think the industry itself, manufacturing, needs to do something different to bring people back? we are no longer in this situation where the local plant might be the town s only employer. people now have other options. yeah, no doubt about it, and i think the guests on your show, i think, put a nice spin on exactly what s going on here, but you also have got to look at the cultural issues over the last, like, 30 or 40 years, steph. we said as americans, which was really stupid, everybody has got to go to college. we ve got to move away from these manufacturing jobs. everybody is going to be in the service sector. then we
the radar and they re very positive. but then there is overall a sense there is a lot. of misrepresentation, - generalisation and the kind of pushing of common tropes that we used to find - on the kind of fringe of social media, which are entering i into mainstream media now. and not really being challenged robustly, whether that s - on broadcast, on topical debatel programmes, or in newspapers, or specifically magazines and newspapers. - so, like what? and is that what you re suggesting the next steps are, to challenge, and how do people challenge, you know, the titles you see as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it s - about the industry itself, you know, kind of saying - to other people that this kind ofjournalism is not acceptable. - we had a panel discussion yesterday where we had . the editors of the mirror, i sunday times, bbc s home affairs editor, as well as some
of think are inconclusive - because they re quite mixed. others, you know, pass the radar and they re very positive. - but then there is overall a sense i there is a lot of misrepresentation, generalisation and the kind . of pushing of common tropes that we used to find on the kind of fringe of social media, - which are entering into. mainstream media now. and not really being| challenged robustly, whether that s on broadcast, i on topical debate programmes, or in newspapers, or specifically magazines and newspapers. . so, like what? and is that what you re suggesting the next steps are, to challenge, and how do people challenge, you know, the titles you see as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it s about the industry itself, you know, kind of saying to other people that this kind ofjournalism i is not acceptable. we had a panel discussion yesterday where we had .
and not really being| challenged robustly, whether that s on broadcast, i on topical debate programmes, or in newspapers or specific . magazines and newspapers. so, like what, and is that what you re suggesting the next steps are, to challenge, and how do people challenge, you know, the titles you see as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it s i about, you know, it s about the industry itself, you know, kind of sayingj to other people that this kind i ofjournalism is not equitable. we had a panel- discussion yesterday the editors of the mirror, sunday times and bbc s home affairs editor as well as some print - and other journalists on. and i think one of the - questions that was put to them is why are not enough . journalists holding other journalists to account - when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels that we - would expect of it? and i think there s . often a fear, we don t want to kind of hold, you know, our- colleagues to account. on another level, ther