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Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211207 01:48:00

| print and otherjournalists on. | and i think one of the - questions that was put to them is why aren t enough - journalists holding other journalists to account - when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels that we would l expect of it? and i think there s often- a fear, we don t want to kind of hold our colleagues to account. on another level, there just isn t the acceptance - that there is a problem, but that i think is slowly changing. i think generally, as a society now, we ve reached a point . where we know whether it s racism, whether it s sexism j it s various kind of levels - where people are not treated equally or fairly. i think we ve reached a place now where people can t hide| behind the fact that this does not exist. | ian, your take on this and how we proceed? it s difficult. i d like to think there s a difference between the regional media where i work and perhaps the national media. i don t know if that s borne out in the report. sounds like

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211205 15:49:00

the editors of the mirror, - sunday times, bbc s home affairs editor, as well as some print and otherjournalists on. - and i think one of the questions. that was put to them is why aren t enoughjournalists holding other journalists to account when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels - that we would expect of it? and i think there s often a fear, we don t want to kind - of hold our colleagues to account. on another level, there just isn t the acceptance - that there is a problem, but that i think is slowly changing. i think generally, as a society now, we ve reached a point where we know whether it s racism, - whether it s sexism . it s various kind of levels where people are not. treated equally or fairly. i think we ve reached a place now where people can t hide behind . the fact that this does not exist. ian, your take on this and how we proceed? it s difficult. i d like to think there s a difference between the regional

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211204 00:48:00

and not really being| challenged robustly, whether that s on broadcast, i on topical debate programmes, or in newspapers or specific . magazines and newspapers. so, like what, and is that what you re suggesting the next steps are, to challenge, and how do people challenge, you know, the titles you see as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it s i about, you know, it s about the industry itself, you know, kind of sayingj to other people that this kind i ofjournalism is not equitable. we had a panel- discussion yesterday the editors of the mirror, sunday times and bbc s home affairs editor as well as some print - and other journalists on. and i think one of the - questions that was put to them is why are not enough . journalists holding other journalists to account - when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels that we - would expect of it? and i think there s . often a fear, we don t want to kind of hold, you know, our- colleagues to account. on another level, ther

Transcripts for BBCNEWS The Media Show 20211204 16:49:00

as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it s - about the industry itself, you know, kind of saying to other people that this kind . ofjournalism is not acceptable. we had a panel discussion yesterday where we had . the editors of the mirror, - sunday times, bbc s home affairs editor, as well as some - print and otherjournalists on. and i think one of the - questions that was put to them is why aren t enough - journalists holding other journalists to account - when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels that we - would expect of it? and i think there s - often a fear, we don t want to kind of hold our colleagues to account. | on another level, there just isn t the acceptance - that there is a problem, but that i think- is slowly changing. i think generally, as a society now, we ve reached a point where we know whether it s racism, whether it s sexism it s various kind of levels - where people are not treated

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