and not really being| challenged robustly, whether that's on broadcast, i on topical debate programmes, or in newspapers or specific . magazines and newspapers... so, like what, and is that what you're suggesting the next steps are, to challenge, and how do people challenge, you know, the titles you see as the worst offenders? i mean, i think it's i about, you know, it's about the industry itself, you know, kind of sayingj to other people that this kind i ofjournalism is not equitable. we had a panel- discussion yesterday the editors of the mirror, sunday times _ and bbc's home affairs editor as well as some print - and other journalists on. and i think one of the - questions that was put to them is why are not enough . journalists holding other journalists to account - when journalistic standards are not reaching the kind of levels that we - would expect of it? and i think there's . often a fear, we don't want to kind of hold, you know, our- colleagues to account. on another level, there just isn't the acceptance - that there is a problem,