That s a huge difference. we re at full employment. if you had a tax bill that said we re going to bring jobs, that s going to work. that s sort of because people are working. the thing is the wages are still there s still a wage gap and you can t create a tax bill short of wage and price control that s going to guarantee the people are going to have their wages increased. so it s a tough it s a tough sell, but, look, i don t think right wing social engineering is any better than left wing social engineering and i think the republicans have so oversold what the tax bill is going to what s going to happen. and andrea, they did the same thing with the health care bill. it s hard to think, i certainly can t in all my years following washington or being in washington, not ask you. have you seen a sloppier legislative year than this year by the republicans and how they
Democrats will make. they re saying this now but what will they say in office? you know why they say that to the older people, every time the chance to cut coming up the republicans want to cut medicare. that s the danger of putting ryan on the one quick thing on older folks. in 2008 john mccain won them by four. in 2004 george bush won them by eight. obviously we know in you 04 bu won and in 2008. newt gingrich didn t even support paul ryan s plan, not even he. you can be sure this clip is in the obama campaign research troef. i want you to react to this. here he is, newt, pounding ryan. i don t think right wing social engineering is any more desirable than left wing social engineering. i don t think it is a good way
Wrong politically. be consistent. just keep telling the truth. john, last thought. i go a bit further. it s obviously true they have a tactical campaign and that s gotten them in trouble on a lot of areas. these aren t even good tactics. this is a tactical error. you would think at a minimum you d have the tactics here. but this is just kind of this is like campaign 101. to make this kind of an unforced error this late in the campaign when there s not as much pressure as in september and october, i think it bodes badly for them what the fall holds. it s only the evening of the day it happened. so don t deny the possibility that romney will take this spokesperson of his to the wood shed and blame it on her. reagan used to do that. thank you, bob shrum and john heilemann. coming up, ryan s hope. the latest buzz that paul ryan
i don t think right wing social engineering has any more desirable and a better medicare system and more choices for seniors. and imposing radical change, i m going to be against a conservative imposing radical change. richard wolffe, it is kind of a miracle and that was against the front-runner of the candidacy that for a while, the republican party really didn t want to see make it all the way. right. because if there s one thing more weird and creepy than newt gingrich, it s actually the multiple personality disorder of the republican party.
i don t think right wing social engineering has any more desirable and a better medicare system and more choices for seniors. and imposing radical change, i m going to be against a conservative imposing radical change. richard wolffe, it is kind of a miracle and that was against the front-runner of the candidacy that for a while, the republican party really didn t want to see make it all the way. right. because if there s one thing more weird and creepy than newt gingrich, it s actually the multiple personality disorder of