candidate, do you think beating president trump is going to be easy or will it be a tough fight for whoever that candidate will be. arthel, i don t think climate change is single issue, we ve got to run in whole different issues, like gun violence, climate change, economic disparities that are inflicting the country, health care, a ton of the issues and american people on almost every one line solidly on democratic positions, there s plenty to go and talk about during the campaign, well, president trump be easy to beat, no, everyone is looking at the polls should realize that the toughest election for a candidate to win, i ran in 17 elections, the toughest election for a candidate to win is against himself or herself, when you get an opponent it s easier and donald trump is going to try to demonize whoever the democratic nominee is, he s going to try to say that they are going to bring socialism to the country, et cetera, et
us with this problem. which is why some people relate to weather more than they relate to climate. weather is something i have to react to, i have to put on the right coat. if i don t, i ll find out. right. i m spiernsing this right now. how could it possibly be the planet is getting warmer. the kinds of changes we re talking about happen over multiple life times and can sweep us up your eyes wouldn t show to you moment by moment. it s something that challenges human perception. over hundreds of years, we on a moment by moment basis get tricked by our human senses which is we should believe what s in front of us. you study this. maybe people are intimidated to come up to you and say things like, you know, i don t think climate change is human driven or that humans contribute to it.
left enough to find those issues. look, this is a democratic electorate that once a socialist. the bernie sanders, a kamala harris. griff: right, right. i don t think climate change is the issue. griff: talk about going left enough. let s go to the other b and that is bernie sanders. you mentioned him. clearly bernie is having a little bit of trouble over in his party. he had a lot more success in 2016. now you see this new york times headline bernie sanders holding on to support may be hard in a 2020 bid. he seems to have a problem and that is a feud that is rising with beto o rourke. yeah. this gets back to latest polling like i was saying at 60% of the democratic primary. they want a fresh new face. see, the chin thing is bernie ss might have missed it. he already had his moment in 2016 when his only competition. the only alternative for a democratic party is hillary clinton. sanders paved the way as the
people reconcile this report by all of these scientists who are in the trump administration with the president who continually denies the existence of it? well, i think the president is grappling with a serious issue here and that is how to deal with what is clearly a real thing. i mean, i don t think climate change is a hoax. climate is changing. on the other hand you think about what can we do to counter act it but not devastate people in democratic regions more sensitive than others, say in appelacia where the coal industry is still important. that s what the president has to grapple with. that s what policy makers have to grapple with. some acknowledgment climate change is real, then have a debate how to deal with it without too many short term places that displace people out of an economy they depend on. how hopeful are you that
i think it is a very fair question. i think we are trying to change an entire system here. partly you can do that by your own behaviors and i think that is exemplary. so yeah, i i think anybody whos concerned about climate change out to be very concerned about their own carbon impact, and at the same time, we are trying to achieve political change in america as it is, and it s very hard to do that without burning fossil fuels. tucker: i understand that. there are practical limits to people s ability to live out theirr beliefs but i do think it calls into question the sincerity of a person who is framing the debate in moral terms if you fall so far short. in other words, if i am a spokeswoman for peta but i operate a slaughterhouse homicide, that makes me less believable. a totally does. i don t think climate change is being framed in moral terms, it is being put into practical, pragmatic terms. we are facing a cataclysmic