if it s one country versus another? i think that the entire narrative was, russia is helping trump, they wanted to move away from that, they wanted to be a different country, a different set of actors. take a listen to adam schiff on how this fits in. the president enlisted the whole departments of government in the illicit aim of trying to get ukraine to dig up dirt on a political opponent, as well as further conspiracy theory about the 2016 election that he believed would be beneficial to his re-election campaign. this is the wild part where it becomes about programming. one of the things we ve just learned from the more detailed house testimony is the exact way they wanted to roll this out. not in 2016, when you ve traced the origins, but in the bribery plot. they wanted the ukrainian president to do a television interview that would be seen in the united states, announcing this foreign investigation.
good morning, martin and christi ochlttown same day he didn t show up for his house testimony despite the fact he was subpoenaed, you would get this document dump, and it comes from these two key characters, the former white house russian colonel alexander vindman, both of them painting a picture of a blatant quid pro quo and on top of that putting mick mulvaney right at the center of it. fiona hill says sondland is in front of the ukrainians as i came in was talking about how he had an agreement with chief of staff mulvaney for a meeting with the ukrainians if they were going to go forward with investigations, and my director for ukraine was looking completely alarmed. so obviously now house committees still wanting to talk
there is another dramatic turn in the roger stone trial today. the former white house chief strategist steve bannon testifying that the trump campaign saw stone as a, quote, an access point to wikileaks. but on his way out of the courtroom, bannon made it clear he wasn t happy about being there. i was compelled to testify, like i was compelled to testify, i was under subpoena by mueller. i was under subpoena by the house. i got a handwritten subpoena in my house testimony. i was forced to go to the grand jury, and i m forced and compelled to come here today. well, joining me now to discuss is shimon prokupecz and anne milgram. good to have both of you on. shimon, bannon is the most high-profile witness to testify at stone s trial so far. he didn t want to be there, but what did he learn from him?
today. the former white house chief strategist steve bannon testifying that the trump campaign saw stone as, quote, an access point to wikileaks. but on his way out of the courtroom, bannon made it clear he wasn t happy about being there. i was compelled to testify like i was compelled to testify i was under subpoena by mueller. i was under subpoena by the house. i got a handwritten subpoena in my house testimony. i was forced to go to the grand jury, and i m forced and compelled to come here today. well, joining me now to discuss is shimon prokupecz and anne milgram. good to have both of you on. shimon, bannon is the most high-profile witness to testify at stone s trial so far. he didn t want to be there, but what did he learn from him? he certainly didn t want to be there. i think it s really interesting that he s consistently made that point. he made that point on the witness stand. it s very significant. he was required to come in and
yes, i was compelled to testify like i was compelled to testify. i was under subpoena by mueller. i was under subpoena by the house. i got a handwritten subpoena in my house testimony. i was forced to go to grand jury and forced and compelled to come here today. are you actually a reluctant witness, mr. bannon? the reporter who asked that question, that got steve bannon to stop in his tracks, stop getting in that car and wheel around and make that yeah i don t want to be here, i m forced and compelled to make that statement, the reporter who asked that question is josh gerstein, and he joins us now. thanks very much for being here. i really appreciate you making the time. hi, rachel. good to see you again. why did you ask bannon that? he was all ready to get in that