there is another dramatic turn in the roger stone trial today. the former white house chief strategist steve bannon testifying that the trump campaign saw stone as a, quote, an access point to wikileaks. but on his way out of the courtroom, bannon made it clear he wasn t happy about being there. i was compelled to testify, like i was compelled to testify, i was under subpoena by mueller. i was under subpoena by the house. i got a handwritten subpoena in my house testimony. i was forced to go to the grand jury, and i m forced and compelled to come here today. well, joining me now to discuss is shimon prokupecz and anne milgram. good to have both of you on. shimon, bannon is the most high-profile witness to testify at stone s trial so far. he didn t want to be there, but what did he learn from him?
swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, so help me god, and proceeded to say he had no communications with the trump campaign about wikileaks. and then you have steve bannon sitting there and saying, yes, %-p. we had 12 communications, up to 12 communications, and we have all these emails. so for the government s case, which is trying to prove that roger stone lied before the united states congress, this is critically important evidence. the other point, which i think has also been made but worth noting again. one of the things that s been really clear from the 302s that were released earlier this week related to the mueller investigation through bannon s testimony is that the campaign was trying to get this information and to win at any cost and to get the influence of a foreign adversary in the campaign. and so mueller was so nothing s changed. right. now it s ukraine, but then it was the intent is important, right? the fact is their intent there was to win at any cost
today. the former white house chief strategist steve bannon testifying that the trump campaign saw stone as, quote, an access point to wikileaks. but on his way out of the courtroom, bannon made it clear he wasn t happy about being there. i was compelled to testify like i was compelled to testify i was under subpoena by mueller. i was under subpoena by the house. i got a handwritten subpoena in my house testimony. i was forced to go to the grand jury, and i m forced and compelled to come here today. well, joining me now to discuss is shimon prokupecz and anne milgram. good to have both of you on. shimon, bannon is the most high-profile witness to testify at stone s trial so far. he didn t want to be there, but what did he learn from him? he certainly didn t want to be there. i think it s really interesting that he s consistently made that point. he made that point on the witness stand. it s very significant. he was required to come in and
this was my point of contact on wikileaks. we had 12 communications, up to 12 communications, and we have all these e-mails. so for the government s case, which is trying to prove that roger stone lied before the united states congress, this is critically important evidence. the other point, which i think has also been made but worth noting again. one of the things that s been really clear from the 302s that were released earlier this week related to the mueller investigation through bannon s testimony is that the campaign was trying to get this information and to win at any cost and to get the influence of a foreign adversary in the campaign. and so mueller was so nothing s changed. right. now it s ukraine, but then it was the intent is important, right? the fact is their intent there was to win at any cost and to basically say they knew russia had hacked emails and they were trying to get them. so, again, mueller couldn t make the case. that s not on trial here. but it s