yes, let s get the government open and we can have a bigger fight for the rest of the funding anyway. that was coming whether or not you got $5 billion or more. i support getting $5 billion. i support getting more. but let s get the government open. senator gardner interviewed by the extremely garrett haake on capitol hill. our lead-off panel, jonathan allen, happens to be co-author of shattered, the story of the hillary clinton presidential campaign. jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press, and josh gernstein. welcome to you all. jill, let me take you to the rose garden event this afternoon. do they seem, this is the white house writ large, to understand either the actual gravity of this going on too long, or even just the superficial optics, the damage of this going on for too long? no. at this point it really doesn t seem like they do. the president still believes that this is a winning issue for him. and you saw him standing out there, you know, twice in
today one of those senators spoke out. i just want to be super clear here, though, i mean, you calling to reopen the government now, and as even if this wall issue isn t entirely solved yet, getting the government reopened now. the reality is this, the senate appropriations bill has the wall in it. yes, let s get the government open and we can have a bigger fight for the rest of the funding anyway. that was coming whether or not you got $5 billion or more. i support getting $5 billion. i support getting more. but let s get the government open now. leadoff panel, jonathan allen, happens to be co-author of shattered, the story of the hillary clinton presidential campaign. jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press, and josh gernstein. welcome to you all. jill, let me take you to the rose garden event this afternoon. do they seem, this is the white
getting the government reopened now. the reality is this, the senate appropriations bill has the wall in it. yes, let s get the government open and we can have a bigger fight for the rest of the funding anyway. that was going to happen whether or not you ve got $5 billion or more. i support getting $5 billion. i support getting more. but let s get the government open now. leadoff panel, jonathan allen, nbc national political reporter, co-author of shattered, the story of the hillary clinton presidential campaign. jill colvin, white house reporter for the associated press, and josh gernstein. senior legal affairs director for politico. welcome to you all. jill, let me take you to the rose garden event this afternoon. do they seem, this is the white house at large, to understand either the actual gravity of this going on too long, or even just the superficial optics, the
martha: he s acting like somebody was under investigation for two years. he isn t quite sure that he would get a fair steak if he sat down. his lawyers have told him that was probably the the be a peers situation, given the scope of this investigation, which seems to be quite wide. marc thiessen, and trace gallagher set set up a piece, you look to the question of julian assange. it s interesting to sort of peel back this investigation and say, what are we talking about here? what are they accusing the president on the campaign of doing? when you get down to the not of it, did julian assange and people who were connected to thd figure out a way to release these emails from the clinton campaign, which were actual emails of the concert campaign was writing to each other, by the way, and were not really that terribly damning, when you look at them again. that is the heart of what we are talking about, right? think about exactly the heart of what we are talking about. the story of paul ma
martha. martha: soon has been soon, you could drive a truck through soon. we will see. thank you very much. here now with more tonight, jonathan turley, george washington university constitutional law professor and r. marc thiessen, fox news contributor. and richard goodstein, former advisor to bill and hillary clinton presidential campaign and a democratic strategist. gentlemen, thank you to all of you. you are all following this very closely, and there has certainly been some developments on it in the past 24 hours. jonathan turley, let me start with you. what do you make up what we have learned in terms of manafort and the mueller investigation saying that they think that he has been lying to them and it sounds like they feel like they have a lot on him? this is pretty rare when it comes to criminal cases overall. it s not rare when it comes to robert mueller. he already has had problems with witnesses who have been involved in plea agreements at one stage or the other. papadopo