martha: he s acting like somebody was under investigation for two years. he isn t quite sure that he would get a fair steak if he sat down. his lawyers have told him that was probably the the be a peers situation, given the scope of this investigation, which seems to be quite wide. marc thiessen, and trace gallagher set set up a piece, you look to the question of julian assange. it s interesting to sort of peel back this investigation and say, what are we talking about here? what are they accusing the president on the campaign of doing? when you get down to the not of it, did julian assange and people who were connected to thd figure out a way to release these emails from the clinton campaign, which were actual emails of the concert campaign was writing to each other, by the way, and were not really that terribly damning, when you look at them again. that is the heart of what we are talking about, right? think about exactly the heart of what we are talking about. the story of paul ma