could get a methodology where money could flow through allies and would not be identified through the traditional banking routes. it has to be money. it s interesting and by the way, eric prince is the brother of betsy devos who was rewarded with the job of secretary of education under donald trump, not saying that those two things are connected but some information that you should know. navid, the other question that this all begs is why would you need to establish a back channel if the administration was incoming shortly? they would be the administration. you could establish a front channel, so why would they do it? it doesn t seem that there s an innocent explanation for that. that s exactly right. it s important to remember the context in which this january meeting occurred. it occurred almost a month after the infamous meeting between flynn, kushner and kislyak and the ceo of this russian bank that s been sanctioned in new york with the purported reason to set up a back chan
which then of course becomes the motive for the january meeting with prince. it seems to me, joy, if i m the russians and looking at this starting back in june with the trump tower meeting and with the dangle of hillary clinton opposition research which kushner walked out of and then to come back to this back channel with this meeting, i think malcolm is absolutely right. the russians realized very quickly that this is a team, a circle of people that s motivated by money and money is going to be the key to get into the circle. i think that s exactly what was happening. malcolm hit this completely straight on the head here. this was clearly a meeting to set up a covert line of communications with the auspices of potentially giving money of some sort to prince or to someone else. but that seems to be the common denominator of all these meetings. need and greed, we ve talked about this for 18, 19 months, that these are the things that allegedly motivate people to do business and dark de
to have discussed a secret back channel to talk to russia. you also have in the washington post that the russian ambassador told his bosses back at the kremlin that kushner wanted a secret communications channel with the kremlin. this again as was just mentioned was a meeting also attended by michael flynn, who s also talking. your thoughts, sarah? i m very frustrated, that as you mentioned earlier, we ve known about this for a year. the story was broken by the washington post by eric prince. we ve known about kushner and his security violations for a long time. while it s good that mueller is clamping down on the investigation and that there are witnesses coming forward, i m wondering what s going on for the last year. these are people, kushner, eric prince who s not officially in the administration, obviously flynn who are not acting on behalf of the interest of the american public. they re acting in their self-interest or on the behalf of the kremlin. they ve been doing this n