and it was a problem for trump. this is a typical conference committee negotiation. it looks like the democrats have given a little bit on border security and providing some, without giving them to the whole concept. more money? more money. and in return, he s mulvaney was just talking about the hard left of the democratic party. nancy pelosi is not the hard left of the democratic party. this proposal is a moderate proposal on i.c.e. detention. there are people in the democratic people who want to abolish i.c.e. it s a ridiculous idea, but limiting the number of beds makes i.c.e. go out and not act indiscriminately. but act strategically. after the criminals. after the criminals. that seems to be a new piece in the discussion. it is, but again, in any negotiation, when you give something, you expect something back. except with trump who says i get everything or nothing. what do you make of the fact that it is apparently a new part of this discussion? i talked to the chi
senators, a lot of them won t like that option. and then that creates all kinds of new problems, too. i hope that the legislative morass gets untangled in the next four days. i think trump will go to the emergency option if he has to. you heard her say even republicans won t go along with it. but they are going along with his demands right now, joe. when republicans controlled congress, this didn t come up. this could have been resolved then. i think they re uncomfortable with it but they won t oppose the president. donald trump has managed to seize control of the republican party and all of these men and women, in particular in the senate, know when they face re-election in 2020, if trump says you ve crossed me, they ll have a hard time winning. i think there s a little bit of context for all of this. and it s been forgotten a little bit. trump made immigration and the wall the central issue of the midterms.
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his an apparent conflicts of interest both in personal relationships and public statements against the mueller investigation. this president will not like that if that s indeed the case. so but i got to ask you, i cut you off. but did you get in what you wanted to say about there s a reason that you believe that people should be pessimistic and that is matthew whitaker? yeah, i mean there s no good reason for matt whitaker to be the acting attorney general of the united states except for the fact that he has been highly critical of the mueller investigation. i mean rod rosenstein is perfectly capable of leading that department and the olc, the office of legal counsel opinion about whitaker s appointment is remarkably thin. best example that they can find of someone serving in this role like whitaker they have to go back to 1866 before the justice department was even created. and it was someone who served as