at. prosecutors are scary, man. w wow. i mean, you really lay it out. and that doesn t even include the wikileaks bombshell that i know is near and dear to your heart, nick ackerman, because you have been talking about this. now, viewers of this show have heard me say, maybe roger stone was just lying and exaggerating. he is a known liar. so maybe there s no there there. i say that because it s possibly true and i say it in fairness. yesterday had hints moving the other direction, which goes more towards the more aggressive ackerman view. it s widely known as the ackerman view. this obsession with collusion. but in all seriousness, i want to read from reporting by jeffrey to bee toobin who says mueller has a witness who heard trump and stone on a speakerphone discussing wikileaks. when pressed on this, stone told
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witness against him. and that has led to a falling out between them. and just last week, right before my deadline, corsi sued stone for $25 million for defamation in the course of the lead up to this case. so can this marriage be saved? doesn t look that way. i like how it s all about jeffrey, right before my deadline. right before me. my deadline and my issues. it was a struggle. i want to read one paragraph back to you because i found this very interesting. this gets to the substance of what s going on. for a person who is usually categorical in his statements, stone is cautious when describing trump s involvement in the quest for wikileaks documents. i have no memory of ever talking about wikileaks with him stone told me in ft. lauderdale responding to rumors that mueller had a witness who heard trump and stone talking on a speaker phone. the way he was talking jumped
there will be no investigations of things for which there is no probable cause, for which there aren t really serious questions. that s fair. we all deserve that. but again, we re kind of past that with the trump administration with dozens of people now under indictment in jail, going to jail, pleading guilty. not every stone has been overturned with respect to the trump administration. and that s what we need to do. very quickly, and i don t want to get too in the weeds but it s in the new york times this morning. there might have been this meeting between paul manafort and constantine kilimnik. and kilimnik is a russian associate with ties to russian intel. comments by one of mr. mueller s lead prosecutors suggests that the special counsel continues to pursue at least one theory that starting while russia was taking steps to bolster mr. trump s candidacy, neme his orbit were discussing deals to end a dispute over russia s incursions into ukraine and probably give moscow relief fr
whip last hour and he said the situation is this. we re giving something in these negotiations hinting, i think, democrats will allow some new money for some new barriers. we re giving that. we want something in return. in return what they support a democratic priority where there are fewer detentions in the interior. if that s right and if they re willing to give something and something can be called a wall or fence or something that gets into the semantics for republicans and trump, then that could be a deal. nia, this is as joe just said, this is standard negotiation. but it doesn t feel that way. right. because the stakes are so high and because we ve just come off this government shutdown and president trump has such an unorthodox way of negotiating, it doesn t feel like what s happening right now is standard operating procedure. i think that s right. and the big question kind of off on the side here is, a, whether or not the president even wants a deal or does he want