they re going to tell a story, something like, okay, you ve got us, we wanted to ask the guy a couple of questions, maybe it was going to be a rendition, we were going to fly him out of there to ask those questions. things got a little rough. we used outside contractors, and i can t speak for what happened after that. is that what we re looking at here? brian, you could be writing the script for this right now, because i think that s exactly where we re headed right now in some form of bizarre, safe-saving measure for the saudis. but this has all the earmarks of the saudi intelligence service. they torture people, they dismember people, they kill people. their motto is homeland not protected is one we don t deserve to live in. they take that to the extreme, where if you re not with our program, you don t deserve to live. that s what this looks like. in terms of an interrogation gone wrong, you don t bring 15 people to an interview.
figure is not real and unlikely to come to fruition. he quotes a defense expert that it s fake and the saudis would go elsewhere to buy their planes and weapons, the same expert says, it would take decades to transition from u.s. and uk aircraft to russian or chinese aircraft. the post points out some of this $110 billion figure could be included in memos of intent, not actual arms purchases. and some of them dating back to the obama administration. now, on that note, let s bring in our leadoff panel on a monday night. we welcome all of you back to the broadcast. frank, does this feel like they re going to tell a story, something like, okay, you ve got us, we wanted to ask the guy a
was chairman of the european affairs subcommittee, so i spent a lot of time at nato and then the soviet union. along came a guy a couple of years later, a guy i knew of, admired from afar, your husband, who had been a prisoner of war, who had endured enormous, enormous pain and suffering. and demonstrated the code, the mccain code. people don t think much about it today, but imagine having already known the pain you were likely to endure and being offered the opportunity to go home but saying no. as his son can tell you in the navy, last one in, last one out. so i knew of john.
and then the soviet union. and a long came a guy a couple years later. a guy i knew of. admired from afar. your husband who had been a prisoner of war. who had endured enormous, enormous pain and suffering. and demonstrated the code, the mccain code. people don t think much about it today. but imagine having already known the pain you were likely to endure and being offered the opportunity to go home. and saying no. in the navy, last one in, last one out. so i knew of john. and john became the navy liaison
is that a tall mountain to climb? that s a very tall mountain to climb. and i d also have to say it depends where this case is tried. if it gets moved out to a conservative jurisdiction in maryland she ll have a very hard time depending on who she gets on the jury in baltimore she may have an easier time. but even with a friendly jury that s a hard one to prove. because you have to prove that you had a malicious and almost intentional disregard that s where depraved heart comes in. your heart is so depraved that you re saying i could care less if you re going to die because i m throwing you in the back of this van. and that s what she is trying to prove. but goodson, of course checked on the welfare of the guy a couple of times during the course of the ride. so the defense will have some things to argue that would counter that claim. so let s talk paul martin, what is happening right now. you these six officers being talked to i imagine, interrogated individually. we mentione