welcomed a set of extremely rare identical triplets. mom and dad are using a color coded system to tell the brothers apart. hand me the red one, honey. all right, brian. thank you very much. we all love shows like ncis and csi. hey, we got your number. jackpot. yes. but long before shows like that, it was our next guest who made criminal forensics a national obsession. she is the world s number one best-selling crime writer, patricia cornwell joins us live and her latest novel depraved heart is coming out next week. sure to be a huge national
discovered and as is often the case, during an ongoing investigation, charges can and should be revised based upon the evidence. these past two weeks, my team has been presenting evidence to a grand jury that just today returned indictments against all six officers for the following offenses. officer caesar goodson jr., depraved heart. murder. involuntary manslaughter. second degree negligent assault. manslaughter by vehicle and gross negligence. criminal negligence. misconduct in office for failure to perform a duty regarding safety of a prisoner. reckless endangerment. officer william porter. involuntary manslaughter. second degree negligent assault. misconduct in office for failure to perform a duty regarding the safety of a prisoner. and reckless endangerment. lieutenant brian rice. involuntary manslaughter.
is that a tall mountain to climb? that s a very tall mountain to climb. and i d also have to say it depends where this case is tried. if it gets moved out to a conservative jurisdiction in maryland she ll have a very hard time depending on who she gets on the jury in baltimore she may have an easier time. but even with a friendly jury that s a hard one to prove. because you have to prove that you had a malicious and almost intentional disregard that s where depraved heart comes in. your heart is so depraved that you re saying i could care less if you re going to die because i m throwing you in the back of this van. and that s what she is trying to prove. but goodson, of course checked on the welfare of the guy a couple of times during the course of the ride. so the defense will have some things to argue that would counter that claim. so let s talk paul martin, what is happening right now. you these six officers being talked to i imagine, interrogated individually. we mentione
charging documents today. and she read that in making her announcement. and two of the officers have only been charge would misdemeanors and the lead charge, charging murder, homicide with murder with depraved heart is a very high standard which requires one to consciencely disregard a known risk of death and the facts in this case show that mr. gray was in distress and the underlying allegation to support the charge is simply that the police ignored his need for medical attention but what needs to come out from other evidence is whether or not his condition was so obvious that there was a serious risk of death, that they ignored that. and you think that will be a high bar to prove? it s a very high bar.