a concerted effort that they are alleging about tha election in that group o people they may or may not come t pass, but certainly seems to b where she s headed they can talk to these fak electors at this point where it might stand, i don know i will say that when you have case, and you have to kind o untangle the defendants from their lawyers in order to tr and get that information tha you need in order to prove you case, that is sometimes moment to pause and think abou the strength of the underlying case anyways we will see. i appreciate the fact that the raced that ethical and professional responsibility of lawyers, and the duties of confidentiality. we recognize those are sacrificing. it s an irony here, because th body of the prosecutors filing this motion, they re trying to put people in jail at the same time that they are talking about wanting to protect their rights it is a good thing
advise them. but you can imagine a case where you have a group o people, they ve all been sent target letter, been called and brought before the grand jury, and the lawyers are saying let s just not talk. sort of without the firs domino falling, i don t have any of it. and i imagine those kind o discussions that are going o in the defense game. there is nothing wrong with th idea of protecting potential defendants rights. that s a good thing. at the same time, it s going t be balanced by the court, th idea and really a sacrosanct choice fitted vandoorne has to have a lawyer of his choosin his or her choosing to represent. him michael moore, thank yo for your time this evening i do appreciate it we have more to come tonight the white man in missouri wh shot a black teenager fo ringing his doorbells says h fired his gun because he was scared and in missouri, as in about 3 other states wit stand-your-ground laws, that alone could be enough for hi to avoid conviction.
and the lawyer was present, an these folks are saying w didn t know about immunity that tells me that there s n deal on the table and ther might not be a cooperation effort there one thing to kind of keep in mind is, this is really th second time just attorney office has tried to disqualify lawyers for the same group o people it is getting to be a little bit like when you run into a brick wall and you can t get around it, the only thing ca do is tear it down it seems like maybe that s what s going on here so i can t tell if they re cooperating. i think that there s som language in the pleading tha makes me question what the rea conflict might be, and one o those things deals with th additional crime you talke about. we don t mean that simply mean one of the fake elector said they signed twice, and i onl signed it once, well that woul be a separate crime, if that s the case it could arguably be additiona criminal conduct, one saying they would be involved and we just don t know a lot y
first point that you brought up, that is exactly why nobody, of tens and tens of supporter there, the biggest group o people happened to be the media. that not only was the same thing there, the same thing in front of his apartment on fift avenue well michael cohen, i alway appreciate you joining the show lending us your insight, we re gonna keep on looking forwar to seeing where that indictmen goes thank you for joining us thi morning. as always katie and coming up next, we ar only 90 days into the new year they ve already been more than 140 mass shootings in america. will this crisis, it i disturbing easy to become numb to the nation s number one cause of death for children an teens. after the break, a candi conversation with a national pediatric surgeon about th grim fiscal realits ieof gun violence keep it right here keep it right here
people so what we are seeing, is th normal application of the law. we are seeing a former president being held to accoun in a normal way. this is how our system works in our system, nobody is a lov of the law nobody is an exception and this proves that is th case the argument otherwise, th argument that this is someho extreme or dangerous, or tha it illustrates our legal syste failing is quite dangerous, as you say, because it reduce peoples faith in those institutions and even around for a long time. now, it could be good because it may reinforce the faith in those institutions, o at least of people believe tha the rule of law triumphs ove other things that said, you have studie countries that have gone fro autocracy or communism t democracy. and in some cases, back th other direction. there is a danger here tha this type of prosecution, an