everything. he would totally defeat purpose of congressional oversight if the witnesses, for example, about the security clearance process can t testify, witnesses about the immigration and children in cages can t testify. if don mcgahn can t testify. these are all things that cannot happen. the judge wrote a very thorough and very well thought out opinion, and i think if anything is clear from watergate, it s that you cannot just thumb your nose at congress and you can t thumb your nose at a justice department subpoena. and that s what the president is setting himself up to do is to be above the law and just say i ll do what i want to do and our whole constitution is based on the fact that people will follow the law. glen kirschner, you were in the courtroom when this case was argued and here you have an opinion by the judge in your hands today saying he actually didn t hear any serious issues raised by president trump s lawyer.
process can t testify, witnesses about the immigration and children in cages can t testify. if don mcgahn can t testify. these are all things that cannot happen. the judge wrote a very thorough and very well thought out opinion, and i think if anything is clear from watergate, it s that you cannot just thumb your nose at congress and you can t thumb your nose at a justice department subpoena. and that s what the president is setting himself up to do is to be above the law and just say i ll do what i want to do and our whole constitution is based on the fact that people will follow the law. glen kirschner, you were in the courtroom when this case was argued and here you have an opinion by the judge in your hands today saying he actually didn t hear any serious issues raised by president trump s lawyer. yeah, lawrence, i want to borrow a phrase from the mueller report. judge meta s ruling was a sweeping and systemic rebuke of the president s claims that he, one, is above the law and
obstruct justice. mcgahn is a credible witness with no motivation to lie. he decided to quit because he did not participate in events that he thought was akin to the saturday night office. he packed up his office, prepared to submit a rez lags letter. said the president had asked him to do crazy expletive and told priebus and bannon he was leaving. all of this comes with the house committee intelligence testimony voting tonight to release michael cohen s testimony from earlier this week. as the washington post first reported, cohen told the committee that jay sekulow, the president s personal attorney, instructed him to lie to congress about trump s negotiations to build a trump tower in moscow. lawyers for sec low said that this or any committee would rely
indication somebody is covering up. also at deutsche bank, david, there would be various loan documents that would indicate possible backers that donald trump has and if you were to discover that some of these big loans were cosigned by say one or more russian oligarchs that would be part of the discovery of all of in that the congress would be very interested in. that was something i brought up on your show some months ago possibility that there are backers or guarantors and other transactions in the background that we don t see directly. the bank should have records of those. deutsche bank, of course, is a privilege. corporations don t have a right to live as you and i do. they say they are cooperating with investigators both from the state of new york and from the federal government. and we should hope that there is a thorough inquiry into this. and exactly what was going on with trump s relationship with deutsche bank which by the way has paid over $600 million in
with when the american people expect. and just across the street, don mcgahn, the president s former lawyer, refusing to testify. do you think don mcgahn should be held in contempt of congress? it s clear this administration thinks they re above the law and a private citizen, still ordered to defy a lawful request. on the orders of a former boss. makes no sense. i m not a legal expert, but my understanding is that exactly this is the sort of thing that these findings are about. i ll leave that to congress to find out. thank you. poot buttigieg on capitol hill at the aboerrtion protest outside the supreme court. and kamala harris last night calmed for inpendant investigations into fatal police shootings and brutalities. independent investigations. no question. there s got to be an independent