him or give material aid or support, they then endanger themselves. so i think what happens is that arrest warrant, even for the single count of the debit use, we all want to know why didn t they why didn t they do what? meaning charge him for the murder, because they re piecing together the information. but having issued that arrest warrant gets them a step closer. they ll continue to give that grand jury information, and i would suspect moving forward, there will be some sense of either him being brought to justice or some other indication that something else may have happened to him. and, again, we don t want to imply that anybody else has been doing anything untoward in assisting brian laundrie. but as the search for laundrie continues, some of this has been based on what laundrie s parents told authorities, to go look in this nature preserve. are his parents facing any kind of consequences depending on how this ultimately plays out? yes. you know, jim, every case turns on it
jury just enough to get this arrest warrant and as they continue they will continue to feed that grand jury information and i suspect the charges will be upgraded moving forward. just to clarify here for our audience. laundrie has not been charged or names a suspect in petito s death. what needs to happen before someone is names a suspect. they have a grand jury indictment which relates to the whole issue of the debit card fraud. they didn t go into the grand jury seeking that. they went into the grand jury seeking information and it s sufficient to elevate the charges to first-degree murder if that s what they conclude. they are also doing a vul vetting of everything. they will be giving the grand jury that information and
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good to see you. okay, how significant is this judge s ruling, judge howell s ruling, that the redacted grand jury information from the mueller report be released to lawmakers who want it? reporter: we ll see how significant it is in terms of substance because they seem to be focused more on ukraine right now than the findings in the mueller report as the epicenter of the impeachment inquiry is moving forward. the fact that this ruling came, it effectively says this impeachment inquiry is legitimate and that s why they need to be provided access to that grand jury information. that s very significant right now given that you ve got this full court press from the republicans saying it s not legitimate, pressure from the congressional republicans to cast a vote on the floor and the fact that there are potential witnesses that are questioning whether they have to comply with subpoenas, having that ruling that says this is an impeachment inquiry and thus we have to treat it as if it is m
we can t just give it away. we can t disclose it. we can t give it to the press. it has to remain secret unless there s an exception, and way back in 1974, judge sirica in the district of columbia, federal court, said that an impeachment proceeding is an exception. it s an exception under which you can give out that grand jury information. that s why the democrats now in the house want the mueller stuff. they want the mueller grand jury information, and so for the department of justice to take a position contrary to what judge sirica did so many years ago is really extraordinary or, frankly, ridiculous. this is the type of information for which an exception is provided. the house democrats should be able to get it under existing precedent. i think judge howell is being kind. all right, chuck rosenberg, thank you very much. and the new episode of chuck s podcast the oath is available now. this week chuck sits down with