charge to bring. hadn t been tested very recently in our modern history, not in yours or mine lifetime. and here we had a situation that was literally unprecedented. they convicted someone for using violence to essentially attack a government proceeding that was an attack on our democracy, an attack on our country. that has downstream effects in one respect that i can think of right off the bat alex which is, when you convict someone like stewart rhodes of an organized violent conspiracy, the next potential charge is, who else was involved in organizing a conspiracy to block the peaceful transfer of power? and if you ve won an seditious conspiracy with an individual who used force, your chances of winning and prosecuting someone might look a little brighter today for someone who was involved in a nonviolent
using violence to essentially attack a government proceeding that was an attack on our democracy, an attack on our country. that has downstream effects in one respect that i can think of right off the bat alex which is, when you convict someone like stewart rhodes of an organized violent conspiracy, the next potential charge is, who else was involved in organizing a conspiracy to block the peaceful transfer of power? and if you ve won an seditious conspiracy with an individual who used force, your chances of winning and prosecuting someone might look a little brighter today for someone who was involved in a nonviolent conspiracy. we don t know who those people are at this moment, we don t know what the department of and if you ve won an seditious conspiracy with an individual who used force, your chances of winning and prosecuting someone
criminal strategy to seize to day of orientation. i ll throw it back to you, but i ll say it again with the news tonight, you ve got people convicted of obstructing a official proceeding. the official proceeding was alerted to them by member of the u.s. government and the trump administration. michael? right, and so rhodes and kelly briggs, they re not benedict arnold here. they re larry and curly arnold. well, i d say somewhere in the middle, but i take your point. i know, i left moe out, sorry. but it s seriously just as you just said about the and the lesser charges of obstructing a proceeding a government proceeding, congress certifying the election of joe biden. obstructing that from happening. well, they weren t the only ones. and i don t mean just they and the people who charged the
flynn and sidney powell are proposing rerunning the election, when he is, you know, literally getting all of the texts you just read, all of this scandalous material where leading republican advisers to donald trump are begging the chief of staff to get the president to do something, he s there and replying, at least in one instance, to the white house counsel, i m sorry, pat, he doesn t want to do anything. he s eyes and ears for so much of what the government is trying to understand. was donald trump as president knowingly, intentionally defrauding the government, conspiring to obstruct a government proceeding. he put the target on the back of vice president pence. that s visibly known based on literally his own tweets. but what does mark meadows
potential crimes may have occurred, including, you know, the most serious one seditious conspiracy to obstruct a government proceeding, a much more broader net. yes, that s l a journalist. okay, a broader net. every fishing expedition castts nets out, though, don t they ?is in n garland, texas, no differet .know how you know how pathetic this entire investigation is when you pat realize that the same pa that s okay with letting thugsy who assault police officers go free, they think trump should be charged for violence committed on january six . the grand jury is activelyy investigating trump s criminal conduct the justice department is interested in and too different kinds of crimes. sois one is the the violenceia and the love thatte we associate with insurrectionn day crimes like conspiracy to defraudco the united states , conspiracy to impede congressional investigations, the conspiracyn