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power. water as well. we re going to get a live update on what he ll hear and see as well. also this morning, court is in session. it s the first day of the supreme court s nine-month term with justice ketanji brown jackson making history as its newest member. the history-making docket, the justices have teed up, after their last blockbuster term. opening statements are under way in a trial involving the oath keepers. their founder and other members are the first capitol attack defendants to be tried on seditious conspiracy charges. coming up, what it could mean for future cases against january 6th rioters. we want to start though with the aftermath of hurricane ian and our reporters on the ground in hard-hit lee county where serge and rescue operations are under way. we are now into day five of the search-and-rescue mission which is currently ongoing. you ve been on the ground for the last couple of days. speaking a lot over the weekend as well. still the devastation unfat

Transcripts for MSNBC Morning Joe 20240604 11:17:00

rarity to have seditious conspiracy charging convictions. talk sentencing. what could stewart rhodes face here? so rhodes and his top lieutenant kelly meggs also convicted of the lead charge, seditious conspiracy, are look the between 20 and 30 years. that s the statutory maximum. guidelines may be lower, though in a case like this. you know, the judge may actually feel compelled to go to the top of the guideline range. now, the other defendants who were also convicted of serious federal felonies, including trying to obstruct certification of joe biden s win, are facing more like 10 to 15 years but i really think it s the fact of the conviction, jonathan, that matters more than how many years or in rhodes and meggs case how many decades they may end up spending in prison. ryan, elise jordan here. what big cases are you watching now with january 6th defendants?

Transcripts for MSNBC The Beat With Ari Melber 20240604 23:11:00

criminal strategy to seize to day of orientation. i ll throw it back to you, but i ll say it again with the news tonight, you ve got people convicted of obstructing a official proceeding. the official proceeding was alerted to them by member of the u.s. government and the trump administration. michael? right, and so rhodes and kelly briggs, they re not benedict arnold here. they re larry and curly arnold. well, i d say somewhere in the middle, but i take your point. i know, i left moe out, sorry. but it s seriously just as you just said about the and the lesser charges of obstructing a proceeding a government proceeding, congress certifying the election of joe biden. obstructing that from happening. well, they weren t the only ones. and i don t mean just they and the people who charged the

Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Reports 20240604 15:23:00

many don t follow issues closely, have no problem taking an oath saying that they re willing to decide the case based only on the facts that they hear in the courtroom and the law as the judge instructs them on it. and that s what defendants are institutionally constitutionally structured to do. let s talk about how it could be problematic, have vulnerabilities to it. i want to read you, lawyers for stewart rhodes are poised to argue that jurors cannot find him guilty of seditious conspiracy because all of the actions that he took before the siege on january 6th were in preparation for orders he anticipated from then-president, orders that never came. what do you make of this defense, joyce? so rhodes has been to law school and in his first year

Transcripts for MSNBC Andrea Mitchell Reports 20220114 17:00:00

right after the election for violent action in washington to block joe biden from becoming president. so rhodes is accused of seditious conspiracy planning with ten other members of the oath keepers to carry out acts of violence to stop congress from formally counting the electoral vote. as early as just two days after the election, he began messaging his leadership team using an encrypted app. he wrote we aren t getting through this without a civil war and then on january 6th, as the rioters were breaking through the police lines, the government says that rhodes messaged his leadership reminding them that the nation s founders stormed the governor s mansion in massachusetts. and then one other thing that s new in this is the hours after the riot, the government says he met with other ott keepers to plan further violence and that in the following weeksen spent more than $17,000 buying weapons and ammunition.

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